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Old 11-07-2020, 03:42 PM
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Wisdom pertaining to the 4 stages of life

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/t...=pocket-newtab

Terrific article - lots of food for thought.
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Old 11-07-2020, 03:53 PM
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good one

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Terrific article - lots of food for thought.
Good one depicting various stages and purpose in the life of a person.
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Old 11-07-2020, 07:39 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation.

To me the four stages of life are, progressively and overlapping:
  • instincts
  • emotions
  • intellect
  • intuition
There is variability in the ways and degree that people go through those stages.

Our level of evolvement of awareness as a species is: we mostly mastered our instincts, are controlled by emotions, and are developing and intellect; surely, with a significant variability among individuals.

(note: it is possible that other people give different meanings to those terms than I do)
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Old 11-07-2020, 08:38 PM
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Thanks for the recommendation.

To me the four stages of life are, progressively and overlapping:
  • instincts
  • emotions
  • intellect
  • intuition
There is variability in the ways and degree that people go through those stages.

Our level of evolvement of awareness as a species is: we mostly mastered our instincts, are controlled by emotions, and are developing and intellect; surely, with a significant variability among individuals.

(note: it is possible that other people give different meanings to those terms than I do)
I relate to what you say. The 'matrix' if Life contains many 'columns' and 'rows' of stages, all simultaneously pertinent. In the case of your classification, I would just add knowledge-n-wisdom as the 'top' one which enables one to 'integrate', and operate as a kind of 'master-ruler' of, the four 'below', I think.

Just riffin' on your scheme .... I very much appreciate the addition, inavalan.
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Old 12-07-2020, 12:14 AM
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I relate to what you say. The 'matrix' if Life contains many 'columns' and 'rows' of stages, all simultaneously pertinent. In the case of your classification, I would just add knowledge-n-wisdom as the 'top' one which enables one to 'integrate', and operate as a kind of 'master-ruler' of, the four 'below', I think.

Just riffin' on your scheme .... I very much appreciate the addition, inavalan.
In the news: "physicists have discovered a new quark"

To me all those discoveries, further and further, both into the macrocosm, and into the microcosm, show the futility of those quests. A "new quark" ... so what? A "new star" ... so what? There's a need for new, revolutionary targets and goals in sciences, where intuition plays a larger role. Currently, sciences rely excessively on intellect.
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Old 12-07-2020, 12:48 AM
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In the news: "physicists have discovered a new quark"

To me all those discoveries, further and further, both into the macrocosm, and into the microcosm, show the futility of those quests. A "new quark" ... so what? A "new star" ... so what? There's a need for new, revolutionary targets and goals in sciences, where intuition plays a larger role. Currently, sciences rely excessively on intellect.
IMO, the time is NOW when 'physics' (i.e. matter-energy materialism) will more and more generally be 'seen', or 'intuited', to be the spiritual-evolution derailing boondoggle that it really is.

This is bound to 'happen' as materialism-based civilization collapses as a result of its own dysfunctionality, People will then 'see' as being a 'bad' 'bet'. Wall Street, 'Walmart, Apple, Google, Amazon, 'modern' medicine, etc. will not 'save' us or the planet.
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Old 15-07-2020, 09:46 PM
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Personally, I have more and more come to see physical reality as an animation of spiritual principals 'brought to life' by, within, and for, my consciousness to experience and explore the meaning contained in the dancing forms. Very much similar to the way in which my mind creates animated experiences to explore conceptual ideas in my dreams as I sleep at night. Science has been my best teacher in showing me this to be true. A quark is just another point particle, something with no size, just an idea of something that I am conscious of, and in this way, they are similar to the particles that make up the matter of my dreams. Both physical reality and my dreams are composed of things that are made of things that cannot be regarded as things, yet my experience of both is a real experience.
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Old 16-07-2020, 07:05 AM
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There's a need for new, revolutionary targets and goals in sciences, where intuition plays a larger role[/b]. Currently, sciences rely excessively on intellect.

The very nature of scientific progress is based on intuitive insight, those "eureka moments" when geniuses and devoted tinkers come up with new things. So all major progress is intuitive insight and leads to what researchers of technological progress call "discontinuous" or "major" innovations.
True, in case of "incremental" innovations/progress, it is the boring Research & Development of an IPhone 9 becoming a 10, where market research and technological advancement mesh (and are boring as hell).

For our forums, there is also a related, fascinating concept that all knowledge is "out there" floating to be picked up (or read fro Akashic records?), and some of it becomes available for pickup at specific times (that's why different people invent the same thing at nearly the same time).
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Old 16-07-2020, 11:33 AM
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The very nature of scientific progress is based on intuitive insight, those "eureka moments" when geniuses and devoted tinkers come up with new things. So all major progress is intuitive insight and leads to what researchers of technological progress call "discontinuous" or "major" innovations.
True, in case of "incremental" innovations/progress, it is the boring Research & Development of an IPhone 9 becoming a 10, where market research and technological advancement mesh (and are boring as hell).

For our forums, there is also a related, fascinating concept that all knowledge is "out there" floating to be picked up (or read fro Akashic records?), and some of it becomes available for pickup at specific times (that's why different people invent the same thing at nearly the same time).
Well said. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes.

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead; his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms-this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness."
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And also this one.
"When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."
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Old 16-07-2020, 09:44 PM
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The very nature of scientific progress is based on intuitive insight, those "eureka moments" when geniuses and devoted tinkers come up with new things. So all major progress is intuitive insight and leads to what researchers of technological progress call "discontinuous" or "major" innovations.
True, in case of "incremental" innovations/progress, it is the boring Research & Development of an IPhone 9 becoming a 10, where market research and technological advancement mesh (and are boring as hell).

For our forums, there is also a related, fascinating concept that all knowledge is "out there" [1] floating to be picked up (or read fro Akashic records?), and some of it becomes available for pickup at specific times (that's why different people invent the same thing at nearly the same time).

[1] Or, because at a subconscious level we're all connected. I don't believe there are any "Akashic records" as a repository of data. Just to sate it, not to argue it.
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