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Old 28-06-2019, 12:06 PM
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The thing is that this message was hateful, that voice was screaming, like it was in pain, in pain because those people had love for God and this entity had no love, only hate.

Perhaps? Or perhaps this entity also, "used to trust God a long time ago, which turned out to be a major letdown," and now it is hurt, angry, and feels it cannot trust God anymore. Perhaps the calls are coming from inside the house? Perhaps it is time you answered them and talked it out, as I suspect until you resolve it, the calls are going to keep coming, and they are not calls you want to be getting.

Trusting God does not mean trusting that God will do what we want or what we believe is good. It means trusting that what happens to us is in the long term, ultimately for our benefit, whether or not it seems so in the present moment. Jesus did not hang upon the cross and say "what the %$#@ is this, I hate you father" no, he said, "thy will be done," and trusted that his suffering was worth it?

Our lives, though they be so dearly felt and held by us, are but the single firing of one neuron in the infinite mind of God. The image that all those neurons firing together create in the third eye of God is well beyond our limited human capacity to understand. But, we can have faith that it is an image of beauty, and goodness.
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Old 28-06-2019, 12:53 PM
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2019 and some adults still believe in a red man with a pitchfork… *sigh*

You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".
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Old 28-06-2019, 01:01 PM
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You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".

Children have the boogeyman to scare them into good behavior, while adults have the devil to keep them in line.

You know where absolute evil comes from? Humans... Hell is not thousands of kilometers below the ground, but right here on the surface. And we are the demons themselves.
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Old 28-06-2019, 01:06 PM
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Children have the boogeyman to scare them into good behavior, while adults have the devil to keep them in line.

You know where absolute evil comes from? Humans... Hell is not thousands of kilometers below the ground, but right here on the surface. And we are the demons themselves.

Well, I know what I've seen and heard, it's not my imagintion.I see that your profile image is a pentagram with the symbol of the baphomet god, if you would know the truth, you would not use them, this is a satanic symbol.Once, while I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, I saw dozens upon dozens of satanists, freemasons and all the other occult cults doing rituals around my house, these were human beings, real human beings worshiping the evil.You know what I've heard that night, a message from them: "WE ARE THE FREEMASONS". I heard it like I hear people talking in real life.
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Old 28-06-2019, 01:32 PM
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Well, I know what I've seen and heard, it's not my imagintion.I see that your profile image is a pentagram with the symbol of the baphomet god, if you would know the truth, you would not use them, this is a satanic symbol.Once, while I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, I saw dozens upon dozens of satanists, freemasons and all the other occult cults doing rituals around my house, these were human beings, real human beings worshiping the evil.You know what I've heard that night, a message from them: "WE ARE THE FREEMASONS". I heard it like I hear people talking in real life.

My profile picture is from a metal band called Slayer, and no they aren't satanists.

Suppose your experience was real (I'm sceptical by nature, forgive me) then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.
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My profile picture is from a metal band called Slayer, and no they aren't satanists.

Suppose your experience was real (I'm sceptical by nature, forgive me) then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.

I see.. A first hand experience changes everything... To tell you more I also received messages about Lucifer aka Satan, yes, this is the name those voices used but I am sceptical to even talk about them, why? They were hiding from me, these beings were hidding, I felt their presence but I could not see them.This happened in the last 7 days and it happened two times.I was in deep meditation when I heard these voices talking in my mind.
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Old 28-06-2019, 02:10 PM
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I see.. A first hand experience changes everything... To tell you more I also received messages about Lucifer aka Satan, yes, this is the name those voices used but I am sceptical to even talk about them, why? They were hiding from me, these beings were hidding, I felt their presence but I could not see them.This happened in the last 7 days and it happened two times.I was in deep meditation when I heard these voices talking in my mind.

There's an explanation for everything. Of course, if you meditate for a long time in total silence with an empty mind you are certain to experience things and hear voices... But it's all in the brain. For example, if you look into a mirror for a long time, your face will become creepy and distorted. Keep that up even longer, and your face will look demonic. It's called the troxler effect. I'm usually in a meditative state of mind before I go to sleep and sometimes I feel an invisible presence around me as if I'm being watched. But recently I just ignore it and stop caring about it because it's most likely just my mind fooling me. It's a scientific fact that such things happen.
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Old 28-06-2019, 02:23 PM
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There's an explanation for everything. Of course, if you meditate for a long time in total silence with an empty mind you are certain to experience things and hear voices... But it's all in the brain. For example, if you look into a mirror for a long time, your face will become creepy and distorted. Keep that up even longer, and your face will look demonic. It's called he troxler effect. I'm usually in a meditative state of mind before I go to sleep and sometimes I feel an invisible presence around me as if I'm being watched. But recently I just ignore it and stop caring about it because it's most likely just my mind fooling me. It's a scientific fact that such things happen.

I know about that thing, I did the test with the mirror when I was a child :)) when I was like 3-5 years old I saw myself for the first time in a mirror, I was shocked, I could not believe that I have a "body" in my mind I was just a point of awareness.I could see my body, you know, hands and so on but it never crossed my mind that this is a real body, well until I saw myself in the mirror.

Science can explain many things but not everything, some things go beyond science...
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Old 28-06-2019, 02:26 PM
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You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".

We can never experience anything unless we first create it within our own consciousness. We may bring in information from outside of our consciousness, but what we create we form from ourselves and color it with ourselves. We animate it and give it meaning, and though others may have provided input, in the end it is our own creation and an expression of, and a part of, ourselves.
You are quite right to be afraid of this thing you have met. Such parts of us are hidden within all (most??) of us whether we care to admit it or not. We try to keep them hidden and deny their existence, but they are our birthright whether we wanted them or not. If we deny parts of ourselves vehemently enough for long enough they can start to seem like someone or something else. Something apart from us and outside of our ability to influence or control. But until we bring them out into the light, admit they exist, and acknowledge who they really are and deal with them as such, they will lurk in the shadows of our being waiting for their moment to surface and fight for control.

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(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"
(61) Jesus said, "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and the other will live." Salome said, "Who are you, man, that you ... have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" Jesus said to her, "I am he who exists from the undivided. I was given some of the things of my father." <...> "I am your disciple." <...> "Therefore I say, if he is destroyed, he will be filled with light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
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Old 28-06-2019, 03:18 PM
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... then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.

True it doesn’t seem so scary at first glance. The trouble is, they don't always limit themselves to simply worshipping their imagination figures. Eventually they grow tired of wasting their precious time start trying to find ways to appease them. Those ways generally involve punishing those who don't believe and don't worship as they do. Before you know it they are laying siege to the walls of Jericho and then storming in to kill with the sword “every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys”. Or, perhaps forming themselves into armies and crusading across the land slaughtering everything in their path. Or perhaps they are hijacking planes full of people and flying them into buildings full of people.
They deny the existence of the devil within themselves and so they have no awareness or control over it when it comes to the surface and starts on a rampage of evil. When their own darkness surfaces to take over their minds, they fail to recognize it as such, and every dark thought they think begins to appear as light, and every dark impulse of their own will becomes contorted to look like the will of God. Driven by their own disowned evil within, they set out to hunt down and destroy an imagined evil enemy out there. They are driven by a need to find one and always seem to manage to do so. And so once again the world burns as they go off to battle, killing person after person, and never understanding why they can’t ever seem to win their war. It’s the “devil” they say, he is strong, but we have God on our side, we will defeat him in the end if we don’t give up.

“Look, over there, I think I see one of his demons now. It is trying to hide as something innocent. I am not fooled. I know evil when I see it. I will go and slay it in the name of the Lord. Take that demon! Praise be to God, Allah Akbar, and all that Jazz.”

Just another day in the army of the righteous. A bunch of nuts dancing or chanting around a fire, be it a bonfire or a single candle, may not seem frightening, but put it into the context of the history of the human race, and there is plenty of genuine evil there to be absolutely afraid of.
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