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Old 05-08-2019, 07:43 AM
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Yes, Miss H, there are many laws...the Law of Gravity, Thermodynamics, Attraction, Karma etc and for the most part, Material Nature (Prakriti) abides by them...but I have also experienced situations where She does not and doesn't play fair and cheats just because she CAN....this is almost always used as a lesson to teach me that She is not predictable and I don't get to control anything in my life when Her 'better half" (Purusha) has other ideas and plans for me.

THIS. I have experienced this too. Maya is definitely spiteful and wants things to go her way. She does not like people having a good and spiritual time.
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Old 05-08-2019, 12:29 PM
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THIS. I have experienced this too. Maya is definitely spiteful and wants things to go her way. She does not like people having a good and spiritual time.
This is life, the universe is set up to wear us away, to destroy our form. when this is combined with the karma we have to endure due to past intent, then even when we are on a spiritual path, indeed often because we are on one, maya or life can seem to be cruel. But it isnt, its just karma doing its thing. By following an avatar we can get some of our negative karma burnt away through our worship, but big karma, that has to be paid. However even then, being under the guidance or following an aavtar will give us the strength to bear this karma.
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Old 05-08-2019, 02:21 PM
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Maya = apparent objective multiplicity veiling a true Oneness.

This is why it is said to be illusion.

It is a law as it is an imposed condition.

But that doesn't mean the condition cannot be transcended by higher principle.
Gravity is a law too, but we fly.


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Old 11-08-2019, 07:51 PM
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Maya = apparent objective multiplicity veiling a true Oneness.

This is why it is said to be illusion.

It is a law as it is an imposed condition.

But that doesn't mean the condition cannot be transcended by higher principle.
Gravity is a law too, but we fly.



....Jyotir, your words are uplifting, as well!
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:59 AM
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Occasionally maya can tell a joke. Something funny happens which makes me laugh. It happened just the other day.
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Old 13-08-2019, 05:25 AM
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There is this saying which springs to mind - heaven first, earth will follow.

So perhaps it is also - heaven first, maya will follow.

Meaning that maya obeys the laws of the spiritual world.

Once the spiritual world is sorted out then maya shall obey.

Is this how you see it?

There are no laws just love and hate. Laws are what humans have come up with to get others to conform to a certain idea. Amen
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Old 13-08-2019, 06:38 AM
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There are no laws just love and hate. Laws are what humans have come up with to get others to conform to a certain idea. Amen

Sounds a bit cynical.
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Maya = apparent objective multiplicity veiling a true Oneness.

This is why it is said to be illusion.

It is a law as it is an imposed condition.

But that doesn't mean the condition cannot be transcended by higher principle.
Gravity is a law too, but we fly.



The "laws" of Maya can indeed be "transcended by higher principle", as you duly noted. Virtually nothing is impossible when one is attuned to the "higher principle".

Well said.
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Old 13-08-2019, 10:18 PM
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The "laws" of Maya can indeed be "transcended by higher principle", as you duly noted.
Virtually nothing is impossible when one is attuned to the "higher principle".

Well said.
Yes!

Ha, Gravity...we fly...but we also dematerialize ....like when Jesus seemed to Ascend to Heaven.
Walking on water was very against the laws here, too! LOL!!!! Or that one night in Texas...ah, yes.
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I thought that maya was a neutral power??
Yes.
About as neutral as the floor boards the actors stand on on the stage.
But, there may always be the one that curses the loose board, I suppose.
Still part of the play!


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