"Not Spiritual"

[Shivani Devi]

Greetings fellow 'spiritual people'.

Twice today, I have been told I am 'not spiritual' which is really cool if I am not because then I can get on with just living a meaningless existence and not knowing any better.

So, to humour it I was like "what makes you say that?"

Apparently, 'spiritual people' never swear, never have an opposing/negative view about anything, never get impatient or frustrated, never have an unkind word to say about anybody or anything, always self-sacrificing and humble, always seeing rainbows and pretty pink unicorns everywhere they go, they never have discussions/debates because all they can say is "it will all be fine, peace and light to you"...I mean there's a whole list of what 'spiritual people have to DO to be 'spiritual people'.

Now, I know people who do this, but say they are "not spiritual"...would it make any difference to them if somebody else said "oh yes...yes you ARE?"

Nope, it would not.

There are also many 'spiritual actors' out there too who believe if they 'play the part' they'll eventually become the part they play. It's like a form of spiritual dishonesty.

So, I am learning to come to terms with the fact that other people don't exist anyway and I only imagine that they do, so being called 'not spiritual' doesn't phase me because it is the weakest form of an attempt at insult based on a supposed guilt feeling I do not possess and thus it just bounces straight back off me, like water off a duck's back.

I mean, Satan could come tomorrow and destroy the world and people go 'what a totally non-spiritual thing to do'...however, the devil is spiritual, just not in any way a mere mortal would ever understand the concept.

So, if you have thoughts, please provide below and if not, move on...nothing to see here. Thank you.

[awareness]

Huggies! You are one of the most Captivating of beings to grace this forum, my friend.

I couldn't not see the Divine Spirit in you even if I tried. Your presence here has been a very powerful catalyst for GOOD.

I wish you well.

[taurmel]

Okay, had this whole commentary written out about feelings and spirituality and no one being "worthy" enough to deem who is spiritual and who's not according to their rules...but, twice it wouldn't post, third time (being the charm) I tried it took out my internet even though I was posting on other posts here.

Sign from the Universe I'm not meant to share my thoughts...so, yes, I will keep checking back here! But honestly, no one here is qualified enough to judge the worth of another's spiritual essence ;)

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by awareness

Huggies! You are one of the most Captivating of beings to grace this forum, my friend.

I couldn't not see the Divine Spirit in you even if I tried. Your presence here has been a very powerful catalyst for GOOD.

I wish you well.

Your words are a very welcome balm for my sore, tired and bruised ego my friend.

For a whole year, I have been trying to get just one person to notice it...not noticing me, not noticing my intelligence, not noticing anything that is attributed to my doing whatsoever...

For a year, all I wanted was for just one person to see the Divine Spirit inside me...I even went to great lengths to point out synchronicities, siddhis (psychic powers), communions with ghosts and spirits...I didn't want people to notice me, I wanted others to notice it...and how it was expressing itself through me and affecting me.

It was too bad that others thought it was me just 'seeking attention'...attention they didn't want to give because it would lead to me becoming reliant/dependent upon external platitudes instead of seeking the answers within myself.

...but c'mon, what makes me any different from anybody else? what makes it so difficult to say "you have a beautiful soul and I can see it?" maybe they cannot see it like you can...no matter how much I try and show it.

It gets to the stage where I could walk on water but nobody will ever see it because they 'weren't looking' at the time...this is what it constantly feels like anyway.

So thank you so much for saying that because it has taken the pressure off just a bit and I am just reaching out for any final straws or lifelines before immersing myself into total solipsism.

Thanks again.

[naturesflow]

Originally Posted by The Necromancer

Greetings fellow 'spiritual people'.

Twice today, I have been told I am 'not spiritual' which is really cool if I am not because then I can get on with just living a meaningless existence and not knowing any better.

So, to humour it I was like "what makes you say that?"

Apparently, 'spiritual people' never swear, never have an opposing/negative view about anything, never get impatient or frustrated, never have an unkind word to say about anybody or anything, always self-sacrificing and humble, always seeing rainbows and pretty pink unicorns everywhere they go, they never have discussions/debates because all they can say is "it will all be fine, peace and light to you"...I mean there's a whole list of what 'spiritual people have to DO to be 'spiritual people'.

Now, I know people who do this, but say they are "not spiritual"...would it make any difference to them if somebody else said "oh yes...yes you ARE?"

Nope, it would not.

There are also many 'spiritual actors' out there too who believe if they 'play the part' they'll eventually become the part they play. It's like a form of spiritual dishonesty.

So, I am learning to come to terms with the fact that other people don't exist anyway and I only imagine that they do, so being called 'not spiritual' doesn't phase me because it is the weakest form of an attempt at insult based on a supposed guilt feeling I do not possess and thus it just bounces straight back off me, like water off a duck's back.

I mean, Satan could come tomorrow and destroy the world and people go 'what a totally non-spiritual thing to do'...however, the devil is spiritual, just not in any way a mere mortal would ever understand the concept.

So, if you have thoughts, please provide below and if not, move on...nothing to see here. Thank you.

Well lucky you.

I get.." you are sooooo spiritual" all the time, yet I am just being myself..lol

I am what I am..

When you offer awareness of something in another light people interpret that as they see it.

Being seen as yourself will be divided up by those dividing. I spent more years than I care to count on supporting to end that division in myself.

The world is what it is.

[naturesflow]

I say lucky you because maybe if they saw me as "not spiritual" they might actually see more of me..hehehe

[Shivani Devi]

Is there anything the world isn't? seeing as how everything 'is what it is?' Curious.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by naturesflow

I say lucky you because maybe if they saw me as "not spiritual" they might actually see more of me..hehehe

Yes, lucky me because if I am 'not spiritual' that must mean I am religious, correct? Jeez I learn fast. lol

[awareness]

Originally Posted by The Necromancer

Your words are a very welcome balm for my sore, tired and bruised ego my friend.

For a whole year, I have been trying to get just one person to notice it...not noticing me, not noticing my intelligence, not noticing anything that is attributed to my doing whatsoever...

For a year, all I wanted was for just one person to see the Divine Spirit inside me...I even went to great lengths to point out synchronicities, siddhis (psychic powers), communions with ghosts and spirits...I didn't want people to notice me, I wanted others to notice it...and how it was expressing itself through me and affecting me.

It was too bad that others thought it was me just 'seeking attention'...attention they didn't want to give because it would lead to me becoming reliant/dependent upon external platitudes instead of seeking the answers within myself.

...but c'mon, what makes me any different from anybody else? what makes it so difficult to say "you have a beautiful soul and I can see it?" maybe they cannot see it like you can...no matter how much I try and show it.

It gets to the stage where I could walk on water but nobody will ever see it because they 'weren't looking' at the time...this is what it constantly feels like anyway.

So thank you so much for saying that because it has taken the pressure off just a bit and I am just reaching out for any final straws or lifelines before immersing myself into total solipsism.

Thanks again.

You are eternally welcome. That was very beautifully expressed, and it touches my heart. A number of times have I come close to responding to you in this forum, yet this time seems the most appropriate.

Your yearning for the Divine is one of the most intense I have ever witnessed, and it burns very brightly.

Your souluminescence is dazzling.

In your "seeking attention" as some may call it, you have actually given so much of your Self, shared so much of your essence, very generously. You and quite a few many others have done so in this forum.

I offer you these words in deep conviction that they may help you feel more loved, and to remind you that this Divine Love is indeed within you at all times, in your Cosmic Heart.

In fact, I felt this kind of Cosmic Love-reaction within myself when I read your opening post for this thread, for which I am deeply appreciative.

Namaste, all.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by taurmel

Okay, had this whole commentary written out about feelings and spirituality and no one being "worthy" enough to deem who is spiritual and who's not according to their rules...but, twice it wouldn't post, third time (being the charm) I tried it took out my internet even though I was posting on other posts here.

Sign from the Universe I'm not meant to share my thoughts...so, yes, I will keep checking back here! But honestly, no one here is qualified enough to judge the worth of another's spiritual essence ;)

I got the whole gist of that unposted post anyway...I also get these signs.
Thank you for taking the time to add your thoughts, even if fate had other ideas about you posting it.