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10-10-2016, 11:01 AM
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Victim-less crime...
Does it exist and if so is it moral?
Every "victim-less crime" will still have consequences, but will they necessarily be bad just because the masses see any crime as immoral?
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23-10-2016, 03:06 PM
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Guide
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Beyond this illusion some where between Finding God and helping others
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The word crime is not clear here.
The laws are simple, do unto others as you would have done to you.
If you are acting from a place of good intention and kindness what crime could you possibly commit.
Some consider drug activity a victimless crime. Its not. It destroys families and souls alike. Pulling them from God making them chase the drug more and more.
DO unto others as you would have them do unto you
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26-10-2016, 02:09 PM
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Master
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defining the terms is important; for clarity.
crime is (can be) defined as: "an action or omission that constitutes an
offense that may be prosecuted by the state and is punishable by law."
so, crime is a rules infraction.
it's easy to imagine a rule that doesn't involve a potential victim, so breaking
such a rule would qualify as a "victimless crime".
a definition of 'victimless crime' is: "a legal offense to which all parties
consent and no party is injured."
i can't see how such an act could be construed as immoral... since ALL parties
consent, and no party is injured. if anything, the existence of the law
which made the act illegal is immoral!
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11-12-2016, 04:31 PM
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Seeker
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Awareness is victim-less, everything else is the play of action, reaction.
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12-12-2016, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by n2mec
Awareness is victim-less, everything else is the play of action, reaction.
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That. You react from the place of loss and pain as you perceive yourself as a victim. In duality, the other must have done you a crime. Being aware of this can shift your perception as crime is just an illusion. |
12-12-2016, 01:25 PM
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Master
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Location: Pretoria South Africa
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Assisted suicide is what came to my mine as victimless crime and there are no injured persons.
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12-12-2016, 01:48 PM
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Master
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[quote=Myl3s-528]Does it exist and if so is it moral?
Has this question got something to do with non-duality ? Do you mean if there is nobody there to be commit a crime or have the crime committed against them then its ok to perform actions which are deemed crimes by the law of the land ? Is this what your getting at ? So in court i can say to the judge, look which thief are you talking about i don't really exist neither does my victim ?
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12-12-2016, 01:54 PM
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yes crime tends to be a cascade of karma roling along those who take part and are part of it
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09-01-2017, 06:26 AM
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Newbie ;)
Join Date: Jan 2017
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jurisDICTION. Word games & definitions
What is moral?
What reference points or standards does one measure the act or persona by?
Definitions?
According to Common Law (Law of the land)
There needs to be an injury or loss to a man.
The living soul, man needs to be the claimant.
The definition of man in the Bible is living soul.
Admiralty or Maritime Law
A breach of contract between legal fictions, corporation, persons.
Government is a corporation, persons.
No need for injury or loss to occur.
Non-compliance to company policies apply.
The notes, bills that you use as currency are also legal fiction.
The word note means "promise to pay"; it is a promissory note.
This is a debt based system.
See Youtube: Money As Debt - Full Length Documentary
Also see Uniform Commercial Code (Contract Law/Equity Law),
the highest law/code regulating Commerce and all negotiable instruments.
This is administered in Washington.
Corporations with government sounding names have their addresses registered in Washington.
Search here: sec.gov/search/search.htm
Bills of Exchange Act is similar to the U.C.C.
Etymology
The word "person" comes from the Latin "persona".
Means actor wearing mask, spoken through sound amplified -sona.
Why the difference jurisDICTION (words)?
A legal fiction cannot claim higher authority to man, it's creator.
Note:
In Australia, "The Road and Traffic Authority" (legal fiction) has changed it's name to "Roads and Maritime Services" (legal fiction).
When the POLICy enforcers ask for the driver's license,
they are gaining jurisDICTION over the members.
The word game also assumes you are an employee of said company
because the word "vehicle" and "driving" implies "working, engaged in commercial activity"; "automobile" does not.
BMW automobile.
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09-01-2017, 03:57 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Olympia, Washington
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Originally Posted by MaryMagdaQueenofQueens
The word crime is not clear here.
The laws are simple, do unto others as you would have done to you.
If you are acting from a place of good intention and kindness what crime could you possibly commit.
Some consider drug activity a victimless crime. Its not. It destroys families and souls alike. Pulling them from God making them chase the drug more and more.
DO unto others as you would have them do unto you
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Treat others how they want to be treated. Don't treat others as you'd want to be treated because maybe other people don't like what you do.
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