The DESIRE TO BE RIGHT...

I'd have to agree with bbr on this.

I don't think the 'tao' ever stopped to think about the criminally insane either for that matter...

No utopia.....

The rational mind cannot understand the Tao....

All in the Tao need no law...

They are THE LAW.

agree.....disagree; this is not the Tao!

This is the wayless way. The lost fish swimming in a fishbowl.

The Tao is for all but it requires you to shed all beliefs.....but one.

The belief that you can reach it...........though it cannot be reached.

The one belief is no belief at all.........more a magnetic pull when you are ready.

"It can't be done!" ........that is why you still need laws. To protect you from........your own self. You create the law because you are in disorder.

Notice a reactivity??? That is what stands in your way.
Can you look at it long enough to "Conquer Through Inaction".....
Can you face the faceless formless dark mass of reactivity?

Just the other side of it, is the solution you strive to know.
Do you have the courage to look at it until it dissolves?
Till the last "bluff" is faced?

or

Still to much cowardly lion in you?

Laws are for the weak, written by the weak, written week to week. Examine the his-story of laws written .....

Examine you........closely self examine you.

Self Honesty and turning inward rather then defensive lashing out, will yield more results then you ever had before. Your doctors are tired of you! Still they see you......because you make their house payments.

Truth is a hot iron on the heads of fools!

How does he know?

He was the greatest fool first......

Faced the fool and dissolved its hold.....

He is Awakened from a long sleep.

The Tao is Right......

it does not seek to be right....

The Tao is Love......

It does not seek to be Love.....

The Tao is Yours!

No matter how long you wander other roads......

All roads lead back to the Tao.

Such is its Love for YOU.

I don't know if the reply above is a 'general' reply or meant for me since it is in riddles and isn't addressed to anyone

I'm not a person who cares for riddles.

I care that there are laws out there that protect me, or at least are in place to help protect me, from some whack job. I suppose when all else fails, at least in the U.S. there is the 2nd Amendment.

One sees what one is filled with.....

We always reflect out own inner state......

A Divine Child says "Love One Another"

One perceives a threat and attacks,

the other sees only Love.

What do you See??

If you like seeing what you see, then let it be.

If you don't like what you see.......change your thoughts by seeing THROUGH the screen which flashes inside"

Originally Posted by Racer X

Conquer Through Inaction

Do not control the people with laws,
Nor violence nor espionage,
But conquer them with inaction.

For:
The more morals and taboos there are,
The more cruelty afflicts people;
The more guns and knives there are,
The more factions divide people;
The more arts and skills there are,
The more change obsoletes people;
The more laws and taxes there are,
The more theft corrupts people.

Yet take no action, and the people nurture each other;
Make no laws, and the people deal fairly with each other;
Own no interest, and the people cooperate with each other;
Express no desire, and the people harmonize with each other.

-Tao Te Ching

The theme of the Tao/Dao is to "go with the flow". Mostly it is a concept that a person uses in their own life, but it can also apply to "a" society. It is just trickier when one tries to apply it to "a" society.

love,

CK

[BlueSky]

The more arts and skills there are,
The more change obsoletes people;


Seriously Racer X, is that really from the Tao Te Ching? Remind me not to read that....lol
Am I just misunderstanding what it means?

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

The more arts and skills there are,
The more change obsoletes people;


Seriously Racer X, is that really from the Tao Te Ching? Remind me not to read that....lol
Am I just misunderstanding what it means?

The Chinese are very sensitive about messing with somebodies rice bowl (living). Which is why Chairman Mao had to go in and completely shake up tradition. Also a part of what Tao was saying was the two much Government was not a good thing. Minimal government is best.

And also there was quite a battle back in the day :) between Tao and Confucius. They were contemporaries and Confucius was considered by most to be the more practical philosopher.

love,

Ck

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

The more arts and skills there are,
The more change obsoletes people;


Seriously Racer X, is that really from the Tao Te Ching? Remind me not to read that....lol
Am I just misunderstanding what it means?

When you take something "Apart" it is no longer whole.

Look at the WHOLE in place of the pieces.

A puzzle piece has no use until all the pieces are put together.

This is what The TAO is saying here .......

It is not against Art or Skill........

It is pointing out "Division" through separation!

The TAO is not opposed to laws.......

LAWS are for the weak who are dangerous to themselves and others.

When I was weak I needed laws to hold me in "check".

When the weak find there TRUE nature , LAWS no longer serve a purpose to them. They do not "endanger" others or themselves because to endanger any is to endanger ALL.

In a moment of COMPLETION you will REALIZE the TRUTH.......

not one moment before!

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by Racer X

When you take something "Apart" it is no longer whole.

Look at the WHOLE in place of the pieces.

A puzzle piece has no use until all the pieces are put together.

This is what The TAO is saying here .......

It is not against Art or Skill........

It is pointing out "Division" through separation!

Cool......thank you for clearing that up. As I said, I have never read the Tao.
However, I'm pretty sure I live it without knowing it.
Thanks again.......James