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Old 28-01-2018, 02:19 AM
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Yep.

Some of your other posts - you need to give me a cheat sheet

That is more then okay. I have discovered that seeds germinate at different rates.

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Staring into the abyss stares back.
What does that have to do with nonduality?
Nothing.
I find them seeds of flower/ flowers from seed.
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Old 28-01-2018, 02:55 PM
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I am the Heat of the Sun, I release and hold back the Rains. I am Death and Immortality; I am Being and Not-Being.

"Ahh, the glorious Isness of Being" rang in my head as I was finishing reprising this thread.

Then, pow, came the realization that there really cannot be any such thing (or non-thing! ) as Non-Being.

There is non-existence, meaning not-manifest in any 'external' world.

But Being, the Isness of Being, is eternally everpresent whether IT is manifest or not.

Non-Being cannot be and so never really is (except as thought and talked about idea, which is a kind of being, aye what?)

The fact that it (the false concept of Non-Being) is included in the Gita quote suggests to me that the idea is am embedded 'bug'-a-boo (an 'awful' thought) for most people, so pontificators of Oneness include it as a designated 'reality' within Oneness. That way, peeps - authors and audiences alike - may/can/will 'relax' with the thought that 'they' (their beingness or isness) can/will never not be a part of said Oneness.

I think it is a 'sweet' (linguistic sleight of mind) 'lie' -- that Non-Being is a part of Oneness -- to reassure peeps (who are still 'afraid' of it as a 'real' possibility) that one's 'spirit' can never be completely reduced to 'zero' or ejected 'out' of and so be separated from Oneness by being 'relegated' to Non-Being.

'Survival' is quite the emotionally-loaded 'fantasy', evoking as it does fear of 'non-survival', aye what?

I suspect the same (existential?) 'anxiety' is what gives rise to concerns about 'duality' or 'dualistic existence' being like a 'branch' which is somehow 'separate' from the Isness of Being which is therefore susceptible to getting/being 'cut off' from It.

My sense is that peeps who don't have such 'concerns' because they are completely (emotionally) sure (and many 'simple' folks 'simply' are so!) that their Beingness is 'eternally' valid and will continue to be so no matter what 'state' of Isness they are 'in' will 'see' this discussion as being 'irrelevant', albeit possibly of curiosity satisfying interest, to them.

Synopsis: One can be 'nothing', in the sense of no 'thing' (one can just be a 'spirit' for instance), but one can't not 'be' what one is - Non-Being is not a possibility, IOW.

Shakespeare didn't have it right. "To be or not to be" is not the question. "What to be and how one may best be so" is! That question is often 'hidden' and so 'finessed' by focus on the former one.

Of course, ideas and convolutions thereof being so elastically maleable, others may well 'see' the BIG PICTURE quite differently than the way I have 'pointed' it.
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Old 28-01-2018, 07:50 PM
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I AM is both the source of magic and magic itself.

How can that be?

The answer to that is basic to the statement itself.

It's been said throughout history in more elaborate ways as if to bury it in the convention of practice in various institutions.
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Old 29-01-2018, 05:11 AM
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Old 29-01-2018, 06:21 PM
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I AM is both the source of magic and magic itself.

How can that be?


It's MAGIC

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Old 30-01-2018, 03:33 AM
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Yeah yo right on dat.
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It's MAGIC

Right on!!

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I'm betting after you read the next sentence through and through you'll get the real message I sent:

That which realizes magic's scope cannot be it's full scope.
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Old 30-01-2018, 06:19 AM
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And that. Is magic too.

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Old 30-01-2018, 06:55 AM
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I'm betting after you read the next sentence through and through you'll get the real message I sent:

That which realizes magic's scope cannot be it's full scope.
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And that. Is magic too.
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What have we here? 'Dueling' nondualities?
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Old 30-01-2018, 06:56 AM
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What have we here? 'Dueling' nondualities?

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And that. Is magic too.

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Old 30-01-2018, 07:18 AM
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What have we here? 'Dueling' nondualities?

Nah. I'm just playing with myself.

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