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Old 03-01-2020, 05:07 PM
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Sutra 1.22



22. mahahridanusamdhanan mantraviryanubhavah //



By the attentive continuity of meditation on the great ocean of consciousness, the power of supreme I is attained.




"When he meditates on that supreme God consciousness by diverting all the flows of his organs to the introverted, not the extroverted, state, he obtains the state of supreme I (mantra virya) because the state of mantra virya is the power of all the letters of the Sanskrit alphabet beginning from the letter a and ending with the letter ksa. Why? Because all sounds rise from those letters. That sound is called sabdarasi, the collective appearance of all letters. And the power and the essence of all those sounds is one sound, the soundless sound, the sound of Ibeing, aham, the supreme I and that is mantra virya. The yogi attains mantra virya not in an objective way but in a subjective way. Thinking and saying "this is mantra virya" is realizing it in an objective way. "I am mantra virya" is realizing it in a subjective way. This is said in the Malinivijaya Tantra:



That supreme (svatantrya) independent energy of Lord Siva is said to be one with Lord Siva. (Malinivijaya Tantra 3.5)"



Energy of independence (svatantrya sakti) of Lord Siva creates universal energies

"In the Malinivijaya Tantra, the author has begun from this point where "the supreme independent energy of Lord Siva is said to be one with Lord Siva." From svatantrya sakti arise the energy of will, the energy of knowledge, and the energy of action. And then all universal energies flow outward. The center, therefore, from which all these energies flow, is svatantrya sakti.



So the author has explained that this energy of independence (svatantrya sakti) of Lord Siva creates universal energies. It not only creates will, knowledge and action, but all universal energies are created by that one energy of Lord Siva."



A brief summary of the First Awakening

"Thus, in this first awakening of Siva Sutras, the first sutra is caitanyam atma, "God consciousness is your self."



So first, he has accepted the fact that this self is, in its real sense, consciousness. Consciousness is the self, not the body, not the mind, not the organs. What is the self? Consciousness is the self and when the state of consciousness is absent, or lessened, or becomes weakened, then you must know that the rise of (malas) impurities has begun. These impurities are three and they are explained in the second and following sutras of the first awakening - jnanam bandha, yonivargah kala sariram, and so on. And that bondage is subsided by udyamo Bhairava, 'the Bhairava which is the supreme flow of super effort." And then this entire universe is filled with divinity and all yogic powers, limited yogic powers, unlimited yogic powers or the internal residence of your own nature, are bestowed by that being."



(This is the end of the First Awakening - sambhavopaya .)
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:22 AM
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Thank you for all these postings and threads about Kashmir Shaivism and welcome back to the Hindu forum.

There are not many of us who live here and who will read this.... I have already read all these things before the last time you did this...a couple of years ago.

I am fascinated by the concept of Kula and how it relates to Vishistadvaita and I have read the Shiva Sutras before anyway...they remind me of the Shiva Rahasya Stotram (Ribu Gita) in the way they describe qualified Non Duality.

This is a massive effort you have achieved in such a short time... it took me a whole week to get through the first 10 lessons in the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra and transcribe it on here....it took a week and I only had those ten posts to show for it...I gave up due to lack of patience.

I did the same thing with the Dakshinamurthy Stotram, the Svetasvatara Upanishad and the Ribu Gita...I got about a quarter way through it and stopped because I realised I was biting off more than I could chew at any one time.

Your marathon effort inspires me to continue with what I have been doing previously.

There is nothing I have to say or critique because I am a Shaiva myself and I just "get" these things, but not many do.

I just need to apply myself more dilligently than I have been doing because I understand that I am infinitely more capable than I am letting on..or even giving myself the credit for...and all you have related today in these three threads, just goes to illustrate it.

Keep up the good work.
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:47 AM
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Thank you very much for the kindness :)
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:35 AM
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You are more than very welcome.

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From the first sutra commentary, there is a discussion about the existence of ignorance that I found interesting
and wanted to share before moving on to the second sutra.
The conclusion: Ignorance was really non-fullness of knowledge.
Yet this non-fullness of knowledge results in getting caught up with the entire worldly experience
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Does ignorance exist before realization?

"Let us examine the theory of the malas, the veils of ignorance.
Where does this ignorance exist?
How can we say that ignorance exists?
If ignorance is removed from God consciousness, it does not exist at all.
So where does it exist?
If ignorance is filled with the independent state of God consciousness, then it is not ignorance at all,
but fullness of God consciousness. (Ha!)

So ignorance cannot be found. Then what is it that remains?
What is left?
There is only independent supreme God consciousness - which is the reality of the self.

..... Because at the time of realization, the aspirant realizes and knows that ignorance does not exist at all.
So that ignorance never exists. Whatever he called ignorance existed,
but it was not actually ignorance; it was really non-fullness of knowledge."
Excellent, really, just the whole thing. Thank you.
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