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Old 21-07-2018, 05:13 AM
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Origin of Father of Heaven (Lord Datta)

Origin of Father of Heaven (Lord Datta)


Process of Creation:-

The starting point is unimaginable God, who is one only (since two unimaginable items can’t exist) and existed before the creation in isolated state. Such unimaginable God (Parabrahman or Jehovah or Allah or God indicated by silence of Buddha and Science or God negated by atheism) created some little imaginable space and the mechanism of this creation is unimaginable (Since in the world, we are aware of imaginable item creating other imaginable item through imaginable mechanism.).

The space is not absolute ‘nothing’ since it is subtle energy. The unimaginable God created an energetic body with the help of this subtle energy occupying some space (A part of that original ‘some little space’ already created is used in the preparation of this energetic body. Other remaining part of that original ‘some little space’ is used for the occupation by this energetic body created.). The unimaginable God merged with this energetic body and became the first energetic incarnation called as Datta or Eshwara or Hiranyagarbha or Narayana or Sadashiva or Father of heaven.

The word Datta does not belong to any religion since it means only ‘given’ (unimaginable God is given in imaginable form to the future souls) and hence, Datta Swami is fascinated to use this word. Shankara used the word ‘Eshwara’. Ramanuja and Madhva called this Datta as ‘Narayana’ since Narayana is the name of God in the present time in which the world is maintained by God. Other religions in the world called Datta as Father of heaven.

After this, further creation was done by Datta. Datta is the unimaginable God mediated with this first energetic form and the creation is always done by the unimaginable God viewed through this medium only. Datta has no end since the unimaginable God will never separate from Datta. Datta created the five elements (including creation of further space) from which the plants were generated and from plants the food is prepared in the form of grains, fruits etc. From this food, the soul (awareness) is generated.

The energetic beings like angels (souls in energetic bodies) exist in the upper worlds whereas human beings (souls in human bodies made of matter and energy) with materialised bodies exist on earth. God as Datta entered some energetic and human beings and identified Himself with them to become energetic or human incarnations. Even the human being on this earth becomes energetic being since the soul from human body enters energetic body after death and goes to the upper worlds. The subtle energy, originally created by unimaginable God is inert energy, called as Muulaprakruti from which matter and awareness were also generated by its modifications. Upper worlds are made of inert energy only, which along with energetic beings are invisible to human beings on the earth due to will of God having unimaginable power.


[The unimaginable God is the creator of every item of the world and knows everything even though He is not awareness. He burns everything in the end even though He is not the fire. He does everything since He is the creator of everything in this world. Such unimaginable God became Datta or God given to the souls as imaginable form by merging with the first created energetic form or Lord (after creating space or subtle energy or the root material of creation called as Mula prakruti. Hence, whenever you start with the first energetic incarnation or Lord, the Mula prakruti co-exists as the material cause of further creation. Hence, the unimaginable God before creation is in unimaginable absolute plane whereas the Lord is always in the relative plane doing further creation using Mula prakruti. Shankara refers the unimaginable God in absolute plane before the creation of even the space or Mula prakruti. Ramanuja and Madhva always refer to the Lord, Who exists along with already created Mula prakruti.). Such Lord Datta(Father of Heaven) is eternal since the unimaginable God will never leave this first energetic incarnation called as Father of heaven or Datta or Ishwara or Hiranyagarbha or Narayana or Sadashiva.

When the human incarnation(like Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Mohammad, Buddha, Shri Datta Swami etc) is formed, the unimaginable God does not enter the human form directly. He enters the human form as Datta only to merge with it so that the merged human form becomes the human incarnation. Here, the medium of Datta (inert energy) is similar to the medium of human incarnation (inert energy along with inert matter. Since the inert matter is another form of inert energy, the inert matter can be also taken as the inert energy. Not only the inert matter, but the awareness is also a special work form of inert energy only. Hence, the medium of Datta containing awareness and inert energy is similar to the medium of human incarnation, which contains awareness, inert energy and inert matter).]

The energy of the body of the first incarnation is only a part of cosmic energy and it is the same as the cosmic energy in qualitative sense and not in quantitative sense. The unimaginable God present in the first energetic incarnation created further cosmic energy, which is qualitatively the same as that of the energetic body of Datta, but, different in quantitative sense. The quantity of energy of the energetic body of Datta is very less compared to the quantity of cosmic energy. But, the little energy of the energetic body of Datta is omnipotent since the unimaginable God merged with Datta.

Adishakti is the entire cosmic energy, but, the Gopika( a female closest devotee of God) is created by the same unimaginable God representing this entire cosmic energy. Every human being is a mini-representative model of Adishakti only like Gopika since the body and the soul are modification of the cosmic energy only. The energetic body of Datta is having relative awareness (created by the modification of inert energy) with which the unimaginable awareness or unimaginable God is merged. The awareness in the body of representative model of Adishakti (Gopika or any human being) is also relative without unimaginable awareness, which is the soul.

The difference between Gopika and ordinary soul is that Gopika is the real devotee of God and has the full grace of God on her. Such a real devotee of God becomes the master of God and hence, is praised as the divine Adishakti.





The first energetic incarnation (Eshwara or Datta) is again absorbed in three energetic forms called Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva to make them God Brahma, God Vishnu and God Shiva respectively. The first energetic incarnation is called as Datta because Datta means the first energetic form through which unimaginable God is donated to the souls in energetic bodies in the upper world. Datta is also the first energetic incarnation that is introduced to humanity also because rarely for a very short time Datta appears to human devotees also.

Datta, the first energetic incarnation in human form, is also called as Divine Father by Christianity. Islam takes this first energetic incarnation in formless lump of energy called as Allah. Christianity also accepts this formless energy as Holy Spirit. In the Veda also this formless first energetic incarnation appeared to angels in the name Yaksha or Brahma, for the sake of which, the king of angels (Indra) did penance for thousand years. In view of the energy being close medium of unimaginable God, this Yaksha is also told as Uma, who is very closely associated to unimaginable God called as Shiva.

You need not doubt that the unimaginable God in this lump or human form of inert energy has inert energetic medium only without awareness since nervous system (matter) was not yet created by the time of expression of Datta (Divine Father) or Yaksha (Uma or Holy spirit). The reason is that the unimaginable God in the inert medium develops awareness by His unimaginable power.

If you analyze sharply, awareness is not an entity like house, tree etc. It is only a specific mode of work and the work itself is a specific form of energy. Other modes of work are talking, walking, looking etc. Awareness means just the process of knowing only and is not an entity to be called as God. Hence, we can say that the formless energy or energy in human form is not inert due to the presence of unimaginable God, who can do anything including the process of knowing or awareness due to His unimaginable nature.

Therefore, Datta in Hinduism or Divine Father called as Jehovah in Christianity (first energetic incarnation of unimaginable God in human form) and Uma or Yaksha in Hinduism or Holy Spirit in Christianity or Allah in Islam is inert energy with form and without form respectively, which are full of awareness due to the inner unimaginable God. Thus, the first type (Datta or Jehovah) and second type (Yaksha or Allah) are one and the same since the difference is only in having form or having no form only. This difference is only a theoretical angle because form is not as real as the material cause. In this way, you can find the unity in Trinity, which is the Unity in the Philosophies of Hinduism, Christianity and Islam.



Datta or Father of heaven is first energetic being and not human being. After merge with unimaginable God, the first energetic being became Father of heaven or Datta. Adam and Eve are the first set of human beings created by God Datta or Father of heaven, who told Adam and Eve not to touch a specific fruit. The Father of heaven tested the human couple for its faith in Him.

Adiparaashakti is the Mulaprakruti created by unimaginable God as the first item of creation, but, the unimaginable God didn’t merge with Adiparaashakti. He merged only with the first energetic being to become Datta or Father of heaven. Adi=first, Paraa=best and Shakti= power or energy. This word can be used in different items based on its applied meaning.

1) The first created subtle energy is first and best energy and hence, can be called as Adiparaashakti.

2) The first created energetic being before the merge of unimaginable God can be also called by this word because the first energetic being contains both awareness and inert energy. The word ‘paraa’ is fixed in awareness because awareness is the best created item. This first energetic being is first (Adi), contains awareness (paraa) and contains inert energy (Shakti) also.

3) The first energetic being after merging with unimaginable God becomes God Datta or Father of Heaven, who is masculine form. God Datta is beyond gender and can appear as male Father, called as Eshwara and simultaneously as female Mother, called as Adiparaashakti.

4) Adiparaashakti can even mean the unimaginable God. Adi = it is the first item before the generation of second item. Paraa= it is beyond the imaginable domain. Shakti = the unimaginable power. We should not be confused with the words provided we are clear about the concept, which is beyond the words. It is said that if you are caught in the forest of words, you will not come out (Shabdajaala mahaaranyam…).

This concept is only to show that the Father of heaven is beyond gender and also beyond any specific form. This means that the Father of Heaven (Datta) appears as Hiranyagarbha or Narayana or Sadashiva or Adiparaashakti or any form of ultimate God of any religion. The unimaginable God is beyond gender and beyond any specific form looking in the form and gender as desired by the devotees. By this, the Father of heaven gets universality of all world religions and all sub-religions in a religion (like various divine forms of sub-religions of which Shakteya is one sub-religion in Hinduism). Shankara brought unity in all the sub-religions like Shaiva, Vaishnava, Shaakteya, Gaanapatya, Skaanda and Saura having Shiva, Vishnu, Adiparaashakti, Ganapati, Skanda and Surya as the main deities in Hinduism. He brought unity in all the divine forms due to presence of same unimaginable God in all those forms. In fact, all these forms appear simultaneously as different forms of the same form, called as the first energetic incarnation, due to the unimaginable power of unimaginable God (Parabrahman) merged with the first energetic incarnation. It is just like the same photo of one form of God looking as different form of God by seeing in a different angle!

If you take Adiparaashakti as energetic being (not merged with unimaginable God), She represents also the creation as product form. If you take her in the causal form, She can be the non-mediated unimaginable God directly or God Datta looking as Divine female form, which is mediated unimaginable God. If you take her in product form, she is the creation. In this way, Vedanta-line speaking about God Datta resulting from Parabrahman (unimaginable God) and the Shakteya-line speaking about Adiparaashakti are not at all different. In both the forms, the same unimaginable God exists. Hence, whenever you use the word Adiparaashakti, you shall be cautious about your intention i.e., whether you like to mean the cause of the creation or the creation (product) itself.
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Old 21-07-2018, 05:50 AM
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Namaste.

Thank you for posting this. Unfortunately, I didn't understand a single word of it, but thank you for posting it anyway.

If the "Father of Heaven" is beyond any form or any gender, how can the "Father of Heaven" even be a "Father of Heaven?"

I think I will go back to worshiping Lord Shiva as some kind of 'imaginable God"...easier that way.

Aum Namah Shivaya
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Old 21-07-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
If the "Father of Heaven" is beyond any form or any gender,
how can the "Father of Heaven" even be a "Father of Heaven?"

I think I will go back to worshiping Lord Shiva as some kind of 'imaginable God"...easier that way.

Aum Namah Shivaya
It's just "us" that needs to say a word or label like
a relatable ''Father"...but still the Unimaginable One has no gender.
Maybe the Unimaginable Creator or Unimaginable Supreme Being?
I dunno.
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Old 21-07-2018, 12:09 PM
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It's just "us" that needs to say a word or label like
a relatable ''Father"...but still the Unimaginable One has no gender.
Maybe the Unimaginable Creator or Unimaginable Supreme Being?
I dunno.
Namaste.

Please forgive my facetiousness, Miss H.

It's just that the whole essay could have been summed up in one simple sentence:

That the Saguna aspect of Brahman (that is a 'God with Attributes') is made possible through the expression of the creative energy (Purusha) through its own creation (Prakriti).

Everything else just does my head in.

Aum Namah Shivaya
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Old 21-07-2018, 12:11 PM
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Namaste.
Please forgive my facetiousness, Miss H.
It's just that the whole essay could have been summed up in one simple sentence...
That the Saguna aspect of Brahman (that is a 'God with Attributes') is made possible through
the expression of the creative energy (Purusha) through its own creation (Prakriti).

Everything else just does my head in.

Aum Namah Shivaya
OH! You were being funny....I get it! I do!
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