Some Questions About Spirits ...

1. Can a spirit fool you with its identity ? What I mean is, if you ask a spirit who it is ( or who it WAS while it was on Earth ) and it tells you who it was while it was on Earth, is it possible for the spirit to be lying to you ?

2. If so, how long can the spirit lie to you before the truth comes out ?

Spirits can be just as crafty, cruel or manipulative as anyone in a body. They can lie about anything they like and hide their identity as easily as you or I can.

As with people here, they can go on for as long as it takes for you to catch them out or until they feel a need to fess up.

From what I've seen and know, most don't really care to be deceitful or manipulative....unless they need to be, or really really want something and can see no other course of action in order to get what they want.

Originally Posted by Sangress

Spirits can be just as crafty, cruel or manipulative as anyone in a body. They can lie about anything they like and hide their identity as easily as you or I can.

As with people here, they can go on for as long as it takes for you to catch them out or until they feel a need to fess up.

From what I've seen and know, most don't really care to be deceitful or manipulative....unless they need to be, or really really want something and can see no other course of action in order to get what they want.

Thank you for your reply
I understand what youre saying and see nothing but logic in your answer.
The spirit who visited me didnt seem to want anything, except for me to know that it loved and cared about me .. it also seemed to want to share some things with me .. personal and everything .. but I would say that overall, the spirit seemed to be focued on one thing : love. It told me alot of things .. but it never seemed to fail at showing and telling me about its love for me and about love, period.

I answered two times, now. I give up! It's this stupid laptop.

Originally Posted by Celeste

I answered two times, now. I give up! It's this stupid laptop.

Its okay ... I know how you feel ... my laptop acts stupid sometimes too ... sorry about your laptop, I hope is stops being stupid soon LOL .

Originally Posted by EternallyHurt

Thank you for your reply
Something weird about the Spirit is, it looked like me .. it looked like me to the 1Oth power ... I cant really explain it. It wasnt a physical thing though ... it was more of a soul/spiritual type thing ... the spirit really reminded me of myself .. but at the same time, it reminded me of someone else that I loved very much who died about a couple of years ago ... the spirit was very real. It was almost TOO real to the point of scaring me, if that makes sense to you .. when I finally got the chance to see the spirit in its "true form", something inside of my soul felt as if it knew and recognized who the spirit was before my physcial self actually did .. and this threw me off, as I dont understand it ...?

Sorry to steer off point lol . Something inside of me just wanted to let you know that for some reason ..
I understand what you are trying to tell me 1OO percent ... I really do and I thank you for sharing your insight with me .
Something I noticed is, the spirit who visited me knew how I felt about it as I would tell it ... I would tell Spirit how confused I was about it and how I didnt understand anything about it .. Spirit would often tell me that its sorry for making me confused and that it didnt mean to do that .. it told me that it was here because "I needed love ..." and it told me that it "loved me more than anything else in this world .." and that it "only wanted to show me that it cared about me .." and that "it was always around me .." ( the things I put in quotes are the thing the Spirit actually said .. ) but even though it told me all those things, it still didnt help the way I felt ... I was still confused ...


Anyway, once again, Ill have you know that I do understand what you are telling me 1OO percent and you could be absolutely right ..
My problem is I dont know how to trust myself or my intuition .. so even if I did feel something in particular, I wouldnt know how to trust it, unfortunately ..

Perhaps that is why that particular Spirit came to you, because you don't trust enough in yourself and you needed that external verification if you like.

When you get time, have a look here - http://www.lobsangrampa.org/overself.html
This stuff makes sense to me but it won't to everyone. That isn't a problem, we all see the Universe in different ways. I believe I am an aspect of a Spirit. A part of that Spirit detached itself and became my Soul, which became incarnate and here I am. Looking through Past Lives, it makes sense because I have never been too far away from the same person. A little different because of genetics obviously, and circumstances have changed to fit in with who and what I needed to be in that particular Life. However, the 'basic me' hasn't changed that much and people who have known me over so many Lifetimes easily recognise the same energies.

Taking that back to your experience, perhaps this is what's happening. Are you one aspect of a certain OverSoul and that person was another aspect of the same one? If your consciousness is somewhere between human and Spirit you might well be perceiving those connections, and in one sense your Soul could well feel as though it's looking in the mirror. The Soul has Spirit connections, it doesn't perceive any barrier or whatever term you like to use between the physical and the Spiritual. In which case, the Soul would recognise another Soul/Spirit instantaneously as we would perceive it. From there, that recognition 'leaks' into your understanding where there is a concept of time. Soul sees it as 'right here, right now' and the mind sees it in terms of time - before and after.

If I may be so bold, I think where you're falling down is in trying to understand it. If that was your experience - whatever it was - then it was real to you. Real to you. Someone else's experience of reality doesn't count, all that matters is that it was your experience and nobody else's. Reality isn't always what we want it to be or how we perceive it, our perception changes and shifts sometimes as everything else in this Universe does. It happened because you needed it to happen, because you needed to know that someone, somewhere Loves you. Don't question why because Love doesn't need to be questioned. Just accept that someone, somewhere Loves you enough to come to you in Spirit and tell you that they did.

Sometimes we get so lost in our own notions that we don't really listen to what the teacher is telling us. In times like these, it's best just to be open enough to the idea that there are so many things in this Universe that perhaps we may never understand fully, but we get what we need when we need it. Stop trying to understand and focus on the message. How much do you know about how the internet in all of its intricacies do you really understand? Yet here you are, battering away on your keyboard and being a part of these forums.

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Perhaps that is why that particular Spirit came to you, because you don't trust enough in yourself and you needed that external verification if you like.

When you get time, have a look here - http://www.lobsangrampa.org/overself.html
This stuff makes sense to me but it won't to everyone. That isn't a problem, we all see the Universe in different ways. I believe I am an aspect of a Spirit. A part of that Spirit detached itself and became my Soul, which became incarnate and here I am. Looking through Past Lives, it makes sense because I have never been too far away from the same person. A little different because of genetics obviously, and circumstances have changed to fit in with who and what I needed to be in that particular Life. However, the 'basic me' hasn't changed that much and people who have known me over so many Lifetimes easily recognise the same energies.

Taking that back to your experience, perhaps this is what's happening. Are you one aspect of a certain OverSoul and that person was another aspect of the same one? If your consciousness is somewhere between human and Spirit you might well be perceiving those connections, and in one sense your Soul could well feel as though it's looking in the mirror. The Soul has Spirit connections, it doesn't perceive any barrier or whatever term you like to use between the physical and the Spiritual. In which case, the Soul would recognise another Soul/Spirit instantaneously as we would perceive it. From there, that recognition 'leaks' into your understanding where there is a concept of time. Soul sees it as 'right here, right now' and the mind sees it in terms of time - before and after.

If I may be so bold, I think where you're falling down is in trying to understand it. If that was your experience - whatever it was - then it was real to you. Real to you. Someone else's experience of reality doesn't count, all that matters is that it was your experience and nobody else's. Reality isn't always what we want it to be or how we perceive it, our perception changes and shifts sometimes as everything else in this Universe does. It happened because you needed it to happen, because you needed to know that someone, somewhere Loves you. Don't question why because Love doesn't need to be questioned. Just accept that someone, somewhere Loves you enough to come to you in Spirit and tell you that they did.

Sometimes we get so lost in our own notions that we don't really listen to what the teacher is telling us. In times like these, it's best just to be open enough to the idea that there are so many things in this Universe that perhaps we may never understand fully, but we get what we need when we need it. Stop trying to understand and focus on the message. How much do you know about how the internet in all of its intricacies do you really understand? Yet here you are, battering away on your keyboard and being a part of these forums.

You know, I wish my experience did not have such a negative effect on me . I dont think people really understand how bad I wish I could have just went through this spiritual experience and came out feeling more knowledgeable and thankful .
I feel like trust, love and everything else has to start from within to really grasp the concept. The Spirit visiting me might have damaged me more than it helped me ... but it only damaged me because I dont know if it was good or bad and I dont know if it was being truthful about who it said it was . I dont know anything! I know you told me not to try to understand so much ... but its very difficult for me . I feel like I deserve some kind of understanding .. but I know that I will never ever get any ... *sigh* . I guess its my fault.
I went to that website that you provided and I have to be honest, I dont think I fully understand what the Overself exactly is.
When they started talking about the different dimensions, that part made sense but I did not understand the essence of the general article.
I am not a believer in past lives . I am not saying that there is not a possibility of past lives being real because I think everything is a possibility ... I just dont believe in it.

Going back to talking about the Oversoul, let me see if I am at least grasping the idea of it. Would God be a good example of an Oversoul? Or is that too broad of an example? If God is a good example of Oversoul, then I think I understand it more than I thought I did .
If Oversoul is what I think it could possibly be, then I would say yes, I think there is a possibility that this person whom I speak about could be a apart of the same Oversoul as me . I dont rule anything out completely .
I do feel like Im somewhat looking in a mirror when I look into this persons' eyes ... but I mainly feel like this person reflects what my soul looks like or something to that effect ... I hope Im not confusing you. Me and this person have the same look in our eyes but our eyes are not shaped alike. It is hard to explain but I think you understand what I mean. Sometimes, I feel like I am the person, though I know thats obviously not true. But I dont mean physically, of course.
Just yesterday, I was looking at this person ... and a few moments afterward, I felt that same meditation - like drowsiness in my eyes and then my body started to react .. I was almost to the point of shaking ..
But I felt so much love in my heart and soul.
I like how you said Spirit sees things as 'right here, right now' and the mind sees things in terms of time because thats really true. I feel like the Spirit is pretty raw for the most part ... so whatever we see or perceive is just plainly what it is, while the mind has a difficult time understanding and deciding.
I am spiritual . I dont know how open I am to it .. but I am a spiritual person, I believe in the Universe and the things that are associated and disassociated with it . As I said before, I am open to all kinds of possibilities for the most part. I am one of those people who would read about another persons' spiritual experience and believe it quicker than my own.

You are right, understanding is my faulting point.
I want to understand everything because I think I feel like I deserve it so bad. I just dont want to be confused anymore. Im ready for an answer that would clear everything up already lol.
You said that I needed to know that someone, somewhere loved me. I would agree with that, if I could be 1OO percent sure that the Spirit who visited me was a good, positive Spirit. If the Spirit I encountered was only trying to trick me, then the word "love" doesnt even matter, because evil Spirits cant love. At least thats what I believe.
See, this is the problem. The Spirit, I dont know if it was a sincerely positive and loving Spirit or not. I dont know if it was trying to trick me or what. If it was a Spirit who was only trying to deceive me, then like I said, love just loses all its meaning in this in particular situation. Then, that would lead to other problems because I loved the Spirit who visited me ... and if it was an evil Spirit, then that would mean I loved something evil and that scares me ..

I would love to accept love if I knew that it was TRUE and SINCERE Love ...
I dont feel like I am questioning love, I feel like I am questioning the nature of my spiritual experience and the Spirit who came to me.

I do not exactly know the message of spiritual encounter either. I dont know anything and that is what is causing problems.

Originally Posted by EternallyHurt

You know, I wish my experience did not have such a negative effect on me . I dont think people really understand how bad I wish I could have just went through this spiritual experience and came out feeling more knowledgeable and thankful .
I feel like trust, love and everything else has to start from within to really grasp the concept. The Spirit visiting me might have damaged me more than it helped me ... but it only damaged me because I dont know if it was good or bad and I dont know if it was being truthful about who it said it was . I dont know anything! I know you told me not to try to understand so much ... but its very difficult for me . I feel like I deserve some kind of understanding .. but I know that I will never ever get any ... *sigh* . I guess its my fault.
I went to that website that you provided and I have to be honest, I dont think I fully understand what the Overself exactly is.
When they started talking about the different dimensions, that part made sense but I did not understand the essence of the general article.
I am not a believer in past lives . I am not saying that there is not a possibility of past lives being real because I think everything is a possibility ... I just dont believe in it.

Going back to talking about the Oversoul, let me see if I am at least grasping the idea of it. Would God be a good example of an Oversoul? Or is that too broad of an example? If God is a good example of Oversoul, then I think I understand it more than I thought I did .
If Oversoul is what I think it could possibly be, then I would say yes, I think there is a possibility that this person whom I speak about could be a apart of the same Oversoul as me . I dont rule anything out completely .
I do feel like Im somewhat looking in a mirror when I look into this persons' eyes ... but I mainly feel like this person reflects what my soul looks like or something to that effect ... I hope Im not confusing you. Me and this person have the same look in our eyes but our eyes are not shaped alike. It is hard to explain but I think you understand what I mean. Sometimes, I feel like I am the person, though I know thats obviously not true. But I dont mean physically, of course.
Just yesterday, I was looking at this person ... and a few moments afterward, I felt that same meditation - like drowsiness in my eyes and then my body started to react .. I was almost to the point of shaking ..
But I felt so much love in my heart and soul.
I like how you said Spirit sees things as 'right here, right now' and the mind sees things in terms of time because thats really true. I feel like the Spirit is pretty raw for the most part ... so whatever we see or perceive is just plainly what it is, while the mind has a difficult time understanding and deciding.
I am spiritual . I dont know how open I am to it .. but I am a spiritual person, I believe in the Universe and the things that are associated and disassociated with it . As I said before, I am open to all kinds of possibilities for the most part. I am one of those people who would read about another persons' spiritual experience and believe it quicker than my own.

You are right, understanding is my faulting point.
I want to understand everything because I think I feel like I deserve it so bad. I just dont want to be confused anymore. Im ready for an answer that would clear everything up already lol.
You said that I needed to know that someone, somewhere loved me. I would agree with that, if I could be 1OO percent sure that the Spirit who visited me was a good, positive Spirit. If the Spirit I encountered was only trying to trick me, then the word "love" doesnt even matter, because evil Spirits cant love. At least thats what I believe.
See, this is the problem. The Spirit, I dont know if it was a sincerely positive and loving Spirit or not. I dont know if it was trying to trick me or what. If it was a Spirit who was only trying to deceive me, then like I said, love just loses all its meaning in this in particular situation. Then, that would lead to other problems because I loved the Spirit who visited me ... and if it was an evil Spirit, then that would mean I loved something evil and that scares me ..

I would love to accept love if I knew that it was TRUE and SINCERE Love ...
I dont feel like I am questioning love, I feel like I am questioning the nature of my spiritual experience and the Spirit who came to me.

I do not exactly know the message of spiritual encounter either. I dont know anything and that is what is causing problems.

Eternally,

Not being callous here, but there are some things only you can decide on. All I can give you is my own perspective on this, such as it is. After that, it's entirely up to you to decide what you take on board or not.

I have a few Spirits that come to me on a regular basis. One is a young girl who is six years old, another is a boy of eight - in human terms anyway, putting aside the Spirit has no age bit for now. Sometimes they just come steaming in as kids do and smack me sideways with all that Love. I don't question that Love nor ask why they do that, it's unconditional as the Love I feel for them. For me it's that simple. How can such Love possibly come from anything or anyone who would wish me harm? No matter how clever a Spirit is, there's no faking that. What the question here isn't whether the Love or the Spirit was good or bad, it's how you choose to perceive it. It's not about fault, it's the way things are. Drop the baggage, because it looks as if there's a lot more than needs to be there. If you felt Love then that's what you felt and the Love was as real as it gets. Love isn't something you can hold in your hand and tell people what colour it is, it's only something you can feel.

Stop thinking you deserve, that doesn't help. You have all the answers you're ever going to get from this one but it seems you're choosing to ignore them. From my perspective - think about it or ignore it - the answers are pretty simple. You connected with a Soul in this Life that passed over. That Soul then went into Spirit (or however you choose to term it) where it tried to connect with you once again. To me, that's the message from the encounter. What you do with it now is entirely your choice - which you've obviously made. They tried to show you Love, they showed you patience and apologised when you said you were confused. Again you're answering your own questions - "evil Spirits cant love. At least thats what I believe." But you don't believe it because in the very next paragraph you turn it around on it's backside. Always you find reason to question, to doubt.

If you are open to the possibilities, then practice what you preach. Be open to the possibility that this experience was the 'real deal' and stop finding reasons to doubt and question. If you only do what you've always done, you'll only get what you've always got.

I personally believe there will come a time when you get to a crossroads. You will be given something or you will have an experience that will be a turning point for you, and what you decide from there will have a huge impact on how things pan out for you. If you stay with your fears, doubts and questions then that is all you will ever have. Sorry to be blunt but there isn't an easier way of saying it. You will have to make the choice about what Path you want to walk on. If you want to walk the Spiritual Path then I believe you will have to get past your biggest obstacle - yourself. You're never going to know for 100% that any Spirit is good and positive because you are always going to question. Once you put those questions aside then things will be a little different. You do know, you know inside and there's something inside you that wants to believe. But there's another part that won't let yourself. Which one will win? It's like the story of the pupil and the master who were sitting talking one day. The master said that there were two animals fighting inside him, one was called Fear and the other was called Enlightenment. The pupil asked him what one would win. The master said that it would be the one he fed.

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Eternally,

Not being callous here, but there are some things only you can decide on. All I can give you is my own perspective on this, such as it is. After that, it's entirely up to you to decide what you take on board or not.

I have a few Spirits that come to me on a regular basis. One is a young girl who is six years old, another is a boy of eight - in human terms anyway, putting aside the Spirit has no age bit for now. Sometimes they just come steaming in as kids do and smack me sideways with all that Love. I don't question that Love nor ask why they do that, it's unconditional as the Love I feel for them. For me it's that simple. How can such Love possibly come from anything or anyone who would wish me harm? No matter how clever a Spirit is, there's no faking that. What the question here isn't whether the Love or the Spirit was good or bad, it's how you choose to perceive it. It's not about fault, it's the way things are. Drop the baggage, because it looks as if there's a lot more than needs to be there. If you felt Love then that's what you felt and the Love was as real as it gets. Love isn't something you can hold in your hand and tell people what colour it is, it's only something you can feel.

Stop thinking you deserve, that doesn't help. You have all the answers you're ever going to get from this one but it seems you're choosing to ignore them. From my perspective - think about it or ignore it - the answers are pretty simple. You connected with a Soul in this Life that passed over. That Soul then went into Spirit (or however you choose to term it) where it tried to connect with you once again. To me, that's the message from the encounter. What you do with it now is entirely your choice - which you've obviously made. They tried to show you Love, they showed you patience and apologised when you said you were confused. Again you're answering your own questions - "evil Spirits cant love. At least thats what I believe." But you don't believe it because in the very next paragraph you turn it around on it's backside. Always you find reason to question, to doubt.

If you are open to the possibilities, then practice what you preach. Be open to the possibility that this experience was the 'real deal' and stop finding reasons to doubt and question. If you only do what you've always done, you'll only get what you've always got.

I personally believe there will come a time when you get to a crossroads. You will be given something or you will have an experience that will be a turning point for you, and what you decide from there will have a huge impact on how things pan out for you. If you stay with your fears, doubts and questions then that is all you will ever have. Sorry to be blunt but there isn't an easier way of saying it. You will have to make the choice about what Path you want to walk on. If you want to walk the Spiritual Path then I believe you will have to get past your biggest obstacle - yourself. You're never going to know for 100% that any Spirit is good and positive because you are always going to question. Once you put those questions aside then things will be a little different. You do know, you know inside and there's something inside you that wants to believe. But there's another part that won't let yourself. Which one will win? It's like the story of the pupil and the master who were sitting talking one day. The master said that there were two animals fighting inside him, one was called Fear and the other was called Enlightenment. The pupil asked him what one would win. The master said that it would be the one he fed.

I agree with you, all of the decisions at the end of the day are up to me. I am just curious about other peoples' opinions, to see their side and reasoning.

Youre right, my perception is the key. How I am viewing my situation and how I am viewing everything about Spirit is the thing. Perception is very powerful. And its not that I am trying to have a negative perception because Im not. I wold love to be able to embrace the power of the love that I think was given to me during my spiritual experience.
I am not ignoring the answers that are being given to me, I am just questioning them and I feel there is a difference. I do think about the things you are telling me and the things that others have told me ... I am not only wrapped up in my own opinions and perceptions, even though I know it might seem that way .
Maybe I do always find a reason to doubt and question but its not because I want to. I do not want to do that and I dont honestly know why I do it.
I dont believe evil spirits can honestly love but I do believe they can fake it. I heard things like, in the end, evil spirits will always reveal themselves as evil ... but I dont know if thats true or not.
Again, I am not trying to doubt. I dont wake up everyday and think "hm, I am going to doubt today" its just something that sneaks up on me and yes, I will admit it, I give way to it, but its not because I want to do that. I guess I just let the bad overtake the good. I dont know why I do that, though.
This statement of yours is a very true one " You do know, you know inside and there's something inside you that wants to believe. But there's another part that won't let yourself ". That has to be about EXACTLY how I feel.
Its very difficult, maybe I am making it difficult ... I dont know, but its still very difficult.

Again, I am sorry for taking up your time and probably annoying you. Thank you for talking to me, though.

Again you're very welcome, Eternally.

I believe that we're all in this together. If one falls by the wayside we all do, so if that means taking someone by the scruff of the neck - metaphorically of course - smacking them upside the head and telling them to get a grip then so be it.

People are the way they are. We all have different backgrounds, experiences etc.. It wouldn't be a whole lot of fun if we were all the same - unless we we're all having fun.

I believe there's a much bigger picture happening inside your head. Don't take this as gospel because a shrink I'm not. What I think you're doing is looking at both sides of the belief coin at the same time. It's neither a right nor wrong thing to do, it's just the way you are. I also believe that the wall of doubt isn't unlimited and there will come a time when you come crashing through that wall. When you get to the other side - and you will, you'll look back on all of this and wonder what it was all about.

Now that you understand the power of perception, what you need to understand next is that you also have the power to change yours. Only you can empower yourself and nothing anyone can say will do that for you. So the next question is - will you empower yourself, and if you do what will you empower yourself to do?

You want reasons for it happening? You want answers? If you want the right answers then you have to ask the right questions. The reasons for it happening are right in front of you, in having doubts and questions. You're taking on board what people are telling you and you're thinking about it. You're not taking them at face value because you're questioning and not just sucking it all down. You're trying to work it all through in your mind in a way you can understand it. There are also people who have chosen to take time and replied to you. If they didn't give a hoot then they wouldn't have, or they might have slated you for it. That has to tell you something. You also keep apologising for taking up my time and annoying me. If that was the case and I had a problem with it, believe me I'd be long gone by now.

I believe there's something fundamental you're missing here. I believe we all go through a process and just right now you're part-way through that process. You can't see it because just right now you can't see what's behind the mask of what's in front of your face. You can't see the wood for the trees.

Everything in this Life is a mask. You are a mask, everything about you is a mask. What you project or choose to project to the outside world is a mask. Events are a mask, and what you experienced is an event that has a mask. Look behind the mask, always. I believe that there are reasons for things happening, and behind the mask of the event itself lies the reasons. Think back to how you were like just before the experience. Then you had the experience and think about everything that has happened since. Look at the whole process that the experience sparked off, the whole chain of events that brought you to where you are now. Think about how you have changed since - because you have, we all change from day-to-day no matter how imperceptible we perceive that to be. Look at the changes, the differences. See your own footprints in the sand. I can't so that for you - and I won't.

I believe that people have to find their own answers because those are the best ones. I won't give you answers but I can offer my own perspective on what's happening here. The real answers can only come from you. However, if I can I'll help you with he questions I will. For me, the question you should be asking is - "What's behind the mask and what are the reasons for it happening?

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Again you're very welcome, Eternally.

I believe that we're all in this together. If one falls by the wayside we all do, so if that means taking someone by the scruff of the neck - metaphorically of course - smacking them upside the head and telling them to get a grip then so be it.

People are the way they are. We all have different backgrounds, experiences etc.. It wouldn't be a whole lot of fun if we were all the same - unless we we're all having fun.

I believe there's a much bigger picture happening inside your head. Don't take this as gospel because a shrink I'm not. What I think you're doing is looking at both sides of the belief coin at the same time. It's neither a right nor wrong thing to do, it's just the way you are. I also believe that the wall of doubt isn't unlimited and there will come a time when you come crashing through that wall. When you get to the other side - and you will, you'll look back on all of this and wonder what it was all about.

Now that you understand the power of perception, what you need to understand next is that you also have the power to change yours. Only you can empower yourself and nothing anyone can say will do that for you. So the next question is - will you empower yourself, and if you do what will you empower yourself to do?

You want reasons for it happening? You want answers? If you want the right answers then you have to ask the right questions. The reasons for it happening are right in front of you, in having doubts and questions. You're taking on board what people are telling you and you're thinking about it. You're not taking them at face value because you're questioning and not just sucking it all down. You're trying to work it all through in your mind in a way you can understand it. There are also people who have chosen to take time and replied to you. If they didn't give a hoot then they wouldn't have, or they might have slated you for it. That has to tell you something. You also keep apologising for taking up my time and annoying me. If that was the case and I had a problem with it, believe me I'd be long gone by now.

I believe there's something fundamental you're missing here. I believe we all go through a process and just right now you're part-way through that process. You can't see it because just right now you can't see what's behind the mask of what's in front of your face. You can't see the wood for the trees.

Everything in this Life is a mask. You are a mask, everything about you is a mask. What you project or choose to project to the outside world is a mask. Events are a mask, and what you experienced is an event that has a mask. Look behind the mask, always. I believe that there are reasons for things happening, and behind the mask of the event itself lies the reasons. Think back to how you were like just before the experience. Then you had the experience and think about everything that has happened since. Look at the whole process that the experience sparked off, the whole chain of events that brought you to where you are now. Think about how you have changed since - because you have, we all change from day-to-day no matter how imperceptible we perceive that to be. Look at the changes, the differences. See your own footprints in the sand. I can't so that for you - and I won't.

I believe that people have to find their own answers because those are the best ones. I won't give you answers but I can offer my own perspective on what's happening here. The real answers can only come from you. However, if I can I'll help you with he questions I will. For me, the question you should be asking is - "What's behind the mask and what are the reasons for it happening?

Thank you

I agree, it wouldnt be a whole lot of fun if we were all the same! It would be very boring and I would probably go even more insane that I already am! LOL

Lol, I know youre not a shrink . Still, I am curious to know your opinions and perceptions just like I am with everyone else. I guess I am trying to see if I can relate to your perceptions before ruling everything else out.
Youre right, I am looking at both sides of the coin. I am doing this to try to come to a conclusion, a legit one.
I know, only I can change my perceptions and beliefs but I feel like people can be influential on those things.
Maybe something is flawed in my perceptions ..? This is why I like to listen to what other people think, even though I know the ultimate decision is up to me .
Okay, Im glad that Im not annoying you ... I just kind of picked up that vibe for some reason . I know other people here care because they have shown it through taking the time out to answer me ... I dont understand why you said this : "There are also people who have chosen to take time and replied to you. If they didn't give a hoot then they wouldn't have, or they might have slated you for it " ...?
I understand that you cant give me the answers I am looking for. Nobody can do that, I have to detect my own answers, but what I am telling you is that I look for the perceptions and opinions of others to see if maybe there is something I am missing in my own perceptions.
Maybe there is something that I am missing in my own perceptions that you, and others have.