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Old 21-02-2020, 03:59 PM
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That's nice.
And how do you know Jesus is ''a god'', please. *
Thought he was begotten, not born.
Also, thought you were not posting here anymore - you made that announcement large enough to be seen by a blind person.

* I respect personal visits or experiences.
And maybe your definition of 'a god' would help.




' Thought he was begotten, not born.'
Yes according to Scriptures....

“And [we believe] in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father … .”
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:06 PM
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That's nice.
And how do you know Jesus is ''a god'', please. *

* I respect personal visits or experiences.
And maybe your definition of 'a god' would help.

In the NIV, in John 10:34 "Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?" Jesus was quoting from Psalms 82:6 which reads ""I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'".

The word for gods in the latter expression is אֱלֹהִ֣ים which gets transliterated as Elohim.

If you look at john 10:33 - 10:35, it is apparent that Jesus was playing with the word "God" and the word "god".

The verses reads from NIV as

“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’ If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—"
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:11 PM
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That's nice.
And how do you know Jesus is ''a god'', please. *
Thought he was begotten, not born.

* I respect personal visits or experiences.
And maybe your definition of 'a god' would help.

Colossians 1:15, from the NIV, claims Jesus, in his prehuman life, was born. The scripture reads:

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:14 PM
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' Thought he was begotten, not born.'
Yes according to Scriptures....

“And [we believe] in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of His Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father … .”
The Nicene Creed nor any of its variants are found in the Bible.
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:39 PM
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Colossians 1:15, from the NIV, claims Jesus, in his prehuman life, was born. The scripture reads:

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."

The Son is the manifestation of the Father, of course He is the firstborn... Without the Son there will be no creation, creation appeared because of the Son, there are bible verses that clearly talk about us living within the Son ( we have our being in Him... and so on )

Just like Jesus has said, no one has ever seen the Father, the only why to see the Father is to see the Son, the Son shows us the Father.

This is how I view things.
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:57 PM
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The Nicene Creed nor any of its variants are found in the Bible.



The Nicene Creed is very much part of the bible


It uses various biblical verses put together to produce a prayer
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Old 21-02-2020, 06:59 PM
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Colossians 1:15, from the NIV, claims Jesus, in his prehuman life, was born. The scripture reads:

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."


How can a pre-human be born
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Old 21-02-2020, 07:00 PM
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The Son is the manifestation of the Father, of course He is the firstborn... Without the Son there will be no creation, creation appeared because of the Son, there are bible verses that clearly talk about us living within the Son ( we have our being in Him... and so on )

Just like Jesus has said, no one has ever seen the Father, the only why to see the Father is to see the Son, the Son shows us the Father.

This is how I view things.



Exactly
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Old 21-02-2020, 10:35 PM
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How can a pre-human be born

Jesus was the first born of creation (pre-human) and then he was born as a human via Mary.
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Old 22-02-2020, 12:28 AM
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Colossians 1:15, from the NIV, claims Jesus, in his prehuman life, was born. The scripture reads:

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation."
Whatdoyaknow - I learned it as begotten, yet I found only one Bible that says first begotten.



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