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Old 15-12-2015, 12:06 AM
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Cold hearted Spirit Masters.

I have read a lot of NDEs. Sometimes they have horrific injuries - I mean horrific, and to me - yeah heaven is lovely - but the Spirit Masters ...are cold.

Like they are using them to send a message - while the poor experiencer is in hospital for six months with splints in his leg etc.

They also talk in disparaging terms about humans. We get it wrong a lot.

Heck yeah the world is a mess, but life can hurt - in the spirit world nobody can hear you scream.

They seem to trivialize life and pain and trauma.

Some masters talk about humans wiping themselves out. Like its a lunch order.

They seem so darn pious and superior.

My 2 cents.

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Old 15-12-2015, 12:14 AM
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Hmmm I don't recall coming across these types of accounts when I was researching NDE's/Thanatology...

What exactly do you mean by 'Spirit Masters'? Is this in reference to the 'light being' that is usually present during what is described as a 'life review'?
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Old 15-12-2015, 12:18 AM
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Hmmm I don't recall coming across these types of accounts when I was researching NDE's/Thanatology...

What exactly do you mean by 'Spirit Masters'? Is this in reference to the 'light being' that is usually present during what is described as a 'life review'?

Yeah there is usually a council of elders.

They often say 'You have to go back, its not your time'

Another favorite is 'We don't make mistakes'.

Oh give me a break.
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Old 15-12-2015, 01:14 AM
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Spirit-Masters? Who are they? Sometimes it is deceased loved ones of the NDE-er who say such things, not some jumped-up heirarchical Beings.

But even so, when a person glimpses/senses "Heaven" they almost always do not want to come back. But what if they have to -to fulfil their life purpose? It's a bit like waking up in the morning. I know I don't want to. Thank goodness for alarm clocks or I would stay there.
Maybe the 'voices'....'Beings'.....instructions...whatever, may sound cold but it isn't really meant that way? But it has to be firm in a sense, or that person would not wish to return. A bit like alarm clocks....

I know, in my own way. I have a sweet connection with a loved one who has passed. Most times we have a lovely connection heart-to-heart. Then there are some times I appear to be quite shut out. My instincts are telling me that apart from what they have to do there, I also have to live life down here -not in a half-world. Sometimes I have to go away and get down to my ordinary life in my own way. (Monday-morning-feeling! LOL!)
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Old 15-12-2015, 01:22 AM
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I am an independent spirit. I am immortal. I don't have to play by anyone else's game.

I have read about Spirit Masters.
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Old 15-12-2015, 01:22 AM
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Some masters talk about humans wiping themselves out. Like its a lunch order.

They seem so ****ing pious and superior.

My 2 cents.
My aren't we feeling important. Do you have any idea how many species are in just this universe?

How much care did you expend on all those species that have gone extinct recently due to mankind's wrecking of the environment?
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Old 15-12-2015, 01:26 AM
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My aren't we feeling important. Do you have any idea how many species are in just this universe?

How much care did you expend on all those species that have gone extinct recently due to mankind's wrecking of the environment?
Its not my fault.

Am I to blame for a psychotic corporation who have brainwashed their employees for pumping waste liquid in the oceans.

Its a bit like Solyent Green. We meekly eat all in the supermarket, while the big companies have caused chaos in the ecosystem
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Old 15-12-2015, 06:08 AM
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Its not my fault.
perhaps the 'Spirit Masters' are saying the same thing ...
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Old 15-12-2015, 03:09 PM
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I have had three near death experiences and i have never had an experience like you describe, your loved ones are normally the ones that come to meet you and they are not cold,i am also a medium and never have i passed on a message saying what you say either. everyone who passes are firstly go into a spirit hospital if you like to recover from their injuries or illness that they suffered here,this is not my experience from having nde or giving messages.

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Old 15-12-2015, 03:21 PM
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Yes, I don't know what the op is talking about.. ..after reading all the books,
all the movies...100s of NDEs.

My personal spirit guide is certainly no master...but she does shoot from the hip...
Not exactly cold...but, direct...a bit impatient with the eyerolls when
I want to exp something for myself...bec she is telling me..."Its a waste of time...
you don't want to do that ."
Can't blame her for showing frustration...but it is like sisterly, loving frustration.
Ha!
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