What if my twinflame is not from the human realm?

[Tobi]

Originally Posted by FrankieJG

What if he is from some other realm?

That's okay. Does species have to be an issue? LOVE.

Originally Posted by bartholomew

Sister a twin flame is a second projection into flesh by a single human soul. Human souls cannot and will never attempt to incarnate in other than a human form. Animals have animal souls. Plants have plant souls. Minerals have mineral souls (these are quite different).

Well I am a Buddhist and I am afraid I can't agree with what you said. Human world ,animal world, extra terrestrial world they all exist and depending on the karma one does and specially the mind at the moment of death (chuthi sitta) one's afterlife will be defined. A human in this life can be born as an animal next life. That is the wheel of samsara (samsara) and see the danger of it...there are enough documentaries of real life incidents where the family member was born as a cobra in the same house area. That is why it is important to keep a peaceful mind free of anger, lust and jealousy etc. No matter how much good a person does if by any chance he happens to remember one bad thing he did at the moment of death he is in danger. This is something you may know already,that all the life incidents will be shown as a film at the moment of death like a flashback. And one more thing I want to share with you, non living matter like air,water,soil and minerals do not have souls.They are combinations of matter without the mind (chitta/soul) factor. They do not have after life.They simply do not think. Apo ,thejo ,wayo,patavi are what the universe is made up of. Including our bodies but WITH the chitta(mind/soul). In a well balanced manner.

Originally Posted by Holly

I have four bodies and I'm consciously aware of all of them. One (the oldest) isn't human. It's thirteen feet tall, made of light, and it has two enormous dexterous wings like spread hands covered in "feathery" structures made of light.

This light body is an "angelic" frequency, and it was made to fit my soul, or spirit. My soul was created not long after Earth was made. I'm relatively young ;) The soul who split to make me is forty five billion linear years old (and those are the years we can count reliably, that doesn't take into account the year he's spent outside time or the years spent in the creation cycle where he was born. He's lived (and lives) on every inhabited planet in this universe, including this one. He definitely isn't human! ;)

I've lived all over the place. Literally crossed the universe. I've been out of it and come back, and took on a human body because I wanted to be here. I remember standing on a river of time, looking down at planet Earth. Everything was timeless, I had no single identity. I definitely wasn't a human then ;) I did that for so long I don't even want to try to put a number on it. I blinked and the dozens of souls I was guiding had all lost their bodies and moved on from Earth.

Humans are just animals. Souls are a different matter entirely.

If humans only incarnate as humans, why am I alive in four different dimensions right now, and in an "angels" body??

Just sayin'

Yeah I soo agree with what you said. Humans will not incarnate as humans forever. Animals will not incarnate as animals forever. And every life whether it is as a human, animal or an angel is TEMPORARY and that is why enlightenment is the ultimate happiness of all.

May be I my self have been an animal or an angel in the past but I cannot remember as you do. I am so glad that you commented here because WOW you remember your past incarnations. I have read plenty of near death experiences, and outer body experiences of people who were in coma and many say how light they feel once they detach from the body. And that there is a light above which sometimes our spirit guides help us reach. I would love to know more about your own experiences. And now you see why I asked what IF my TF is from another realm? He could be a floating spirit now, or else an angel.And may I know YOUR opinion on TF reunion?

[Ghost_Rider_1970]

Your reply is quite close to my way of understating, although I may see the position with souls and reincarnation a little differently.

I don't believe we are a soul within a body, but a body within the soul of the universe. Where the universal soul is like a bar of chocolate , where everyone and everything is a piece from the same bar. So everyone and everything is their own element of the same universal soul. Be it animal, mineral, vegetable - or alien :)

Sorry for the choccy anaology, although I do like chocolate

When it comes to reincarnation, my belief is that we live this life and only this life. This isn't as gloomy as it sounds though, hehe! As each of us IS the Eternal Universe. So as one person dies another person is born. Where they are you and I when they also come into 'Being'. It is just that even though we are multi-dimensional we can only experience life from one viewpoint at a time.

For me this makes perfect sense, as nothing is hidden from us or requires any specialist knowledge. As everything is in plain sight. We simply just need to know how to see.

Even though everyone has their own truth, I am so grateful and find that so amazing. As we each live, learn and broaden our horizons by sharing in each other's views.

Where I really do thank you for yours, and everyone for theirs.

Originally Posted by FrankieJG

Well I am a Buddhist and I am afraid I can't agree with what you said. Human world ,animal world, extra terrestrial world they all exist and depending on the karma one does and specially the mind at the moment of death (chuthi sitta) one's afterlife will be defined. A human in this life can be born as an animal next life. That is the wheel of samsara (samsara) and see the danger of it...there are enough documentaries of real life incidents where the family member was born as a cobra in the same house area. That is why it is important to keep a peaceful mind free of anger, lust and jealousy etc. No matter how much good a person does if by any chance he happens to remember one bad thing he did at the moment of death he is in danger. This is something you may know already,that all the life incidents will be shown as a film at the moment of death like a flashback. And one more thing I want to share with you, non living matter like air,water,soil and minerals do not have souls.They are combinations of matter without the mind (chitta/soul) factor. They do not have after life.They simply do not think. Apo ,thejo ,wayo,patavi are what the universe is made up of. Including our bodies but WITH the chitta(mind/soul). In a well balanced manner.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by FrankieJG

Yeah I soo agree with what you said. Humans will not incarnate as humans forever. Animals will not incarnate as animals forever. And every life whether it is as a human, animal or an angel is TEMPORARY and that is why enlightenment is the ultimate happiness of all.

May be I my self have been an animal or an angel in the past but I cannot remember as you do. I am so glad that you commented here because WOW you remember your past incarnations. I have read plenty of near death experiences, and outer body experiences of people who were in coma and many say how light they feel once they detach from the body. And that there is a light above which sometimes our spirit guides help us reach. I would love to know more about your own experiences. And now you see why I asked what IF my TF is from another realm? He could be a floating spirit now, or else an angel.And may I know YOUR opinion on TF reunion?

I only have one clear memory of visual information, which is the one I described, of looking down at the planet. It is very light when you detach from your body! When I travel around in spirit, coming back to my body is a short sharp shock sometimes. It's very heavy in the flesh.

Twin Flame reunion...I think real TF's are rare on Earth, despite this being easily the most popular part of the forum. I think there's a LOT of misinformation all over the internet about them and people expect the wrong things from their TF entirely. They want a Christian Gray romance but what they normally get is an explosive spiritual crisis and a lot of pain before anything good happens

Real tF reunion for me was like...dying six times a year, going through the worst pain, fear and anguish ever. Getting physically ill, getting mentally ill, being tormented by my own mind. I just went through Hell. I'm still going through Hell eight years later!

It's beautiful, it's amazing, it's worth it but it's not something anyone would want to go looking for LOL. Once it finds you, you'll love every second but it won't always make you happy. It changes your whole life. TF reunion is like protracted childbirth LOL, only...the pain lasts for years. It's really bad. It's about as bad as you can really feel. And also about as good.

A lot of people think their TF is a co worker or the milkman etc. I highly doubt it. When I met mine I had a breakdown and spent 6 months in bed on the sick. It wasn't all that romantic LOL. And yet it was the most romantic thing ever...but in a very painful, truthful way.

:)

Originally Posted by Holly

I only have one clear memory of visual information, which is the one I described, of looking down at the planet. It is very light when you detach from your body! When I travel around in spirit, coming back to my body is a short sharp shock sometimes. It's very heavy in the flesh.

Twin Flame reunion...I think real TF's are rare on Earth, despite this being easily the most popular part of the forum. I think there's a LOT of misinformation all over the internet about them and people expect the wrong things from their TF entirely. They want a Christian Gray romance but what they normally get is an explosive spiritual crisis and a lot of pain before anything good happens

Real tF reunion for me was like...dying six times a year, going through the worst pain, fear and anguish ever. Getting physically ill, getting mentally ill, being tormented by my own mind. I just went through Hell. I'm still going through Hell eight years later!

It's beautiful, it's amazing, it's worth it but it's not something anyone would want to go looking for LOL. Once it finds you, you'll love every second but it won't always make you happy. It changes your whole life. TF reunion is like protracted childbirth LOL, only...the pain lasts for years. It's really bad. It's about as bad as you can really feel. And also about as good.

A lot of people think their TF is a co worker or the milkman etc. I highly doubt it. When I met mine I had a breakdown and spent 6 months in bed on the sick. It wasn't all that romantic LOL. And yet it was the most romantic thing ever...but in a very painful, truthful way.

:)

James: Holly I have been rereading your original post and am thinking that you may indeed be aware of TF's on other worlds. Since all these would be of the same soul, your soul, they may not appear as humans but regardless they are OF a human soul. Since the physical fits the planet on which it lives this is a good possibility. A human soul requires a brain capable of expressing through. Why would the body be of importance?

I think it likely that you are very aware of your own soul and can see your twins because they, too, are of the same soul. If this is correct you have cousins on other worlds. Wow...

I have not asked Bartholomew about this. These are just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Holly

I only have one clear memory of visual information, which is the one I described, of looking down at the planet. It is very light when you detach from your body! When I travel around in spirit, coming back to my body is a short sharp shock sometimes. It's very heavy in the flesh.

Twin Flame reunion...I think real TF's are rare on Earth, despite this being easily the most popular part of the forum. I think there's a LOT of misinformation all over the internet about them and people expect the wrong things from their TF entirely. They want a Christian Gray romance but what they normally get is an explosive spiritual crisis and a lot of pain before anything good happens

Real tF reunion for me was like...dying six times a year, going through the worst pain, fear and anguish ever. Getting physically ill, getting mentally ill, being tormented by my own mind. I just went through Hell. I'm still going through Hell eight years later!

It's beautiful, it's amazing, it's worth it but it's not something anyone would want to go looking for LOL. Once it finds you, you'll love every second but it won't always make you happy. It changes your whole life. TF reunion is like protracted childbirth LOL, only...the pain lasts for years. It's really bad. It's about as bad as you can really feel. And also about as good.

A lot of people think their TF is a co worker or the milkman etc. I highly doubt it. When I met mine I had a breakdown and spent 6 months in bed on the sick. It wasn't all that romantic LOL. And yet it was the most romantic thing ever...but in a very painful, truthful way.

:)

I can agree with the fact that TF relationships are rare on earth.In most of the cases they find some soulmate who vibe similarly. Many think that if a partner is making an effort to continue some relationship is their TF but I think, even when the person who is committed and making an effort is (in many cases not all) the other partner is attractive (physically),rich or famous .This is what I learnt from what I have seen in the society. No one is really committed in their relationships. The excitement is always short term.It is always only conditional love which I can everywhere. They hunt for a partner like a company hunt for a certain employee for a post. With a list of requirements. That change over time when they climb the social ladder. I always believed that love is something which should be felt from the heart and heart only. Definitely not because the partner is attractive(we all get attracted to beautiful things) or rich and famous.

Many women tend to think they found their true love when they find a man with a good education, great job, great background,loves animals and kids etc but how long would such a relationship/marriage last? And when that man seems to have lost the interest they label him as the soulmate "runner". These are all misleading information.

I genuinely wish that we all find and settle down with the RIGHT TF.But that is not easy.I can't even imagine that kind of a bond. I have always respected TF connection.I respect my TF wherever he is.If I ever get the chance to meet and talk to him for at least an hour. That would be enough for a life time. If he is not in this realm but If I get to know his presence I wouldn't even think of getting married. I must tell you that I am 23 and I have been in a few of short term relationships but never have I ever let them be intimate with me.I have never kissed or been kissed on the lips by any of the men who I was in relationships with. Because I knew they were not my TF.Some liked me for my looks, personality and some liked me because they were desperate without a partner and vise versa. I don't know whether you will believe me or not but I have an immense respect for my TF who I have nooo idea about.I want to save everything for him. I have gone to astrologers, spoken to psychics but nobody could track any detail about him.

Do you know any way to connect with them?If he is a part of me and I am apart of him it should most definitely be possible. Help me with your knowledge please. That would be my pleasure. And I will be forever thankful.

[Flameseeker]

Originally Posted by FrankieJG

What if he is from some other realm?

Well this is odd, as it is my understanding that all souls in existence that have been split & have a TF are either Elohim or Angels.

Yes some are incarnate currently in human form, to aid ascension,
however they are not humanity souls.

No humanity souls have been split or have TF's.