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Old 06-08-2017, 07:18 AM
Ground Ground is offline
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Rebirth

What is rebirth?
It is the anew arising of what has ceased before. The basis of rebirth is identity, i.e. that which arises is that which has ceased before.


How can rebirth be validly known?
It can be validly known through having directly perceived a thing before its cessation and through directly perceiving its anew arising. Thus one can validly know 'This has existed before it ceased and now it has arisen again.' based on direct perception.


Can a living being be reborn?
A living being cannot be reborn. Why? Because although a living being can be directly perceived before it ceases to live a living being that is newly born cannot be traced back to a living being that has ceased to live before through direct perception. There is no directly perceptible sign of a living being that would necessarily indicate that it had existed before it was born.


What can be inferred?
The word 'rebirth' that occurs in authentic buddhist texts in the context of the birth of living beings is a metaphor because there is no directly perceptible basis for its non-metaphorical use.
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:13 AM
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What is rebirth?
It is the anew arising of what has ceased before. The basis of rebirth is identity, i.e. that which arises is that which has ceased before.


How can rebirth be validly known?
It can be validly known through having directly perceived a thing before its cessation and through directly perceiving its anew arising. Thus one can validly know 'This has existed before it ceased and now it has arisen again.' based on direct perception.


Can a living being be reborn?
A living being cannot be reborn. Why? Because although a living being can be directly perceived before it ceases to live a living being that is newly born cannot be traced back to a living being that has ceased to live before through direct perception. There is no directly perceptible sign of a living being that would necessarily indicate that it had existed before it was born.


What can be inferred?
The word 'rebirth' that occurs in authentic buddhist texts in the context of the birth of living beings is a metaphor because there is no directly perceptible basis for its non-metaphorical use.

Wow. I am impressed to read something that speaks directly to my understanding of this, especially coming from you. It appears that you had your own little rebirth overnight.
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ground
What is rebirth?
It is the anew arising of what has ceased before. The basis of rebirth is identity, i.e. that which arises is that which has ceased before.


How can rebirth be validly known?
It can be validly known through having directly perceived a thing before its cessation and through directly perceiving its anew arising. Thus one can validly know 'This has existed before it ceased and now it has arisen again.' based on direct perception.


Can a living being be reborn?
A living being cannot be reborn. Why? Because although a living being can be directly perceived before it ceases to live a living being that is newly born cannot be traced back to a living being that has ceased to live before through direct perception. There is no directly perceptible sign of a living being that would necessarily indicate that it had existed before it was born.


What can be inferred?
The word 'rebirth' that occurs in authentic buddhist texts in the context of the birth of living beings is a metaphor because there is no directly perceptible basis for its non-metaphorical use.

Like most religious scripture, the Diamond Sutra veils the meaning of rebirth from the opening chapter. When the subject puts on his robe, this is the Being in Sattva (TRUTH) above (your higher nature). He then enters the stream of life below (Rajas / Tamas). From this Sanskrit source, we have a veiled meaning for John 3 in the Bible, or baptism -- immersion into the stream of life (rebirth).

In Hebrew, the word AMEN is AMN (TRUE), or Aleph (Strong) Mem (Water) Nun (Seed). The Hebrew word truth is Aleph Mem Tav, or Strong Water Mark. In Greek, the word AMN is Lamb. From the root AMN, you can make limited Greek and Latin words, giving you the key to the True Lamb taking on the robe (body) and mind (crown).

AMN

In Greek (WEST), AMN is LAMB. Consider the words made with this grouping of letters:

Amn - Lamb

Amni - River of Life

Amnio - Bowl catching the sacrifice of a Lamb in ancient Rome

Amnion - Sac covering the baby in the womb

Amniotic - Fluid of the womb. Also mixed with the blood of the amnio in ritual sacrifice

Amnesia - Condition of the Lamb at birth

Anamnesis - Rediscovery of forgotten knowledge or talents as residual images left behind by past lives (you must be born again)

Amnesty - When God forgets

dAMNation - When God remembers sin

Notice that Linguistics are the true scripture. Amnesia does not imply you will fail to remember when hanging up the robe. Death is simply an illusion. Tantra is the robe we wear as a text, or the WORD. Aleph Bet in Hebrew is the word Father. John 1 tells you how the letters make word (like DNA making the book of a human body). WORD is the primary programming language of MARA (illusion of reality in simulation).

Hebrews 9

23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

What is the topic of Heb 9? The Earthly Tabernacle.
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:37 PM
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With that said, your life in rebirth here is the process to hand down your contribution to the future, not just to take something with you into your present perfection (Sattva). The bowl is what you capture your sacrifice with, then you eat what is in the bowl. Simulation requires you to review the thing simulated, then adjust. From an ancient Egyptian fragment, this is Seek, Find and Adaptation (Evolution).
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ground
What is rebirth?
It is the anew arising of what has ceased before. The basis of rebirth is identity, i.e. that which arises is that which has ceased before.


How can rebirth be validly known?
It can be validly known through having directly perceived a thing before its cessation and through directly perceiving its anew arising. Thus one can validly know 'This has existed before it ceased and now it has arisen again.' based on direct perception.


Can a living being be reborn?
A living being cannot be reborn. Why? Because although a living being can be directly perceived before it ceases to live a living being that is newly born cannot be traced back to a living being that has ceased to live before through direct perception. There is no directly perceptible sign of a living being that would necessarily indicate that it had existed before it was born.


What can be inferred?
The word 'rebirth' that occurs in authentic buddhist texts in the context of the birth of living beings is a metaphor because there is no directly perceptible basis for its non-metaphorical use.

This relative view you are holding is seen by a higher axiom, unifying your contradiction. You are asleep above (Sattva). BUDH in Sanskrit means to awaken, or gain connection between Sattva and your lower mind wandering in Rajas (time / relative passion) and Tamas (amnesia / ignorance / form / image). Compare to a present metaphor we can relate to directly.

If our movies and computers advance to the point that we can step into the image, unaware of our connection to the machine, we would be said to exist in the present time and in an alternate reality at the same time. You are in two places, yet aware of only one. Advance this a few more thousand years and one person is in 100 alternate universes at the same time, yet still present in the single frame of time and mind as their true self. Rebirth is again entering the matrix of the machine, yet living in a time dilation outside the machine.

The ratio for this is given in the Bible as a 1000 years is a day and a day is 1000 years. For seventy years of life here, we see this as a fraction of 7/100 to the other reality. This would amount to our life here as 1.68 hours gone from true reality. This is a good measure of time to meditate this reality into existence like a similar movie. Dilation of time is consistent with light traveling over a space, since space and time are relative to speed and mass.

Eternal life in a gravitational well does not negate artificial communication between locked nature and translated reality. While invariant symmetry (mind at rest) does not change, translational symmetry uses this anchor to render the image. In physics, this is true by the nature of the strong force abiding in invariance, while the weak nature breaks symmetry to create form. The invariance stays the same.

Look up these two concepts on the WIKI and see that translational symmetry has one eternal direction, which is the flow of time in one direction. As an example, a butterfly uses translational symmetry to fly, always maintaining the invariance as an anchor. This is Tao 11. This is also how you are reading this page. It's also how the computer renders information (WORD) from letters of programming you cannot read and into a form you can read.
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