What Christians do wrong.....

[Honza]

Is what Christians do wrong Christ's fault? Or is it basically the Christians fault despite Christ's best intentions?

I know there is a lot of resentment among Pagans against Christians. But who do you think is at fault - Christ or Christians or both?

[BriarRose]

My own thought is that people who dislike Christians may have had bad past life experiences with Christianity. I know that is true for me. The Christ consciousness is not at fault for human misinterpretation and the evil deeds they do. But, rather than focusing on what is "wrong" with certain schools of spirituality, i.e. religions, I think it's better to focus on what they do "right". Otherwise, we just get dragged down into an endless cycle of hatred, and judging other people - one of the things Christ didn't want his followers to do! I still struggle with this, Honza, although I think of myself as Pagan.

[Adrienne]

Originally Posted by RosieCotton

But, rather than focusing on what is "wrong" with certain schools of spirituality, i.e. religions, I think it's better to focus on what they do "right". Otherwise, we just get dragged down into an endless cycle of hatred, and judging other people - one of the things Christ didn't want his followers to do!

Very nicely said Rosie ~

Honza, quit stirring the pot ! LOL !

[norseman]

Christianity or [as I prefer to call it], Churchianity, has very little to do with Christ.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Adrienne

Very nicely said Rosie ~

Honza, quit stirring the pot ! LOL !

Hi Adrienne,

You have a new user name and I can't recognise you......who were you before?

[Adrienne]

I AM someone that you used to know in a past life ,lol .....

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by RosieCotton

My own thought is that people who dislike Christians may have had bad past life experiences with Christianity. I know that is true for me. The Christ consciousness is not at fault for human misinterpretation and the evil deeds they do. But, rather than focusing on what is "wrong" with certain schools of spirituality, i.e. religions, I think it's better to focus on what they do "right". Otherwise, we just get dragged down into an endless cycle of hatred, and judging other people - one of the things Christ didn't want his followers to do! I still struggle with this, Honza, although I think of myself as Pagan.

Who is perfect? Who is without Ego, in this fallen situation we call, "the world"?
In time and space... which even Physics today says is an illusory situation.

Do you think you are? Curious.

If time and space are illusory, also, then what is the true situation, concerning "past lives"?

We are all in this evolved organic situation together, all in the same boat. Also, we are all more and other than what we appear as, here. The origin of all things being of Spirit, and, apart from, "space/time".

Originally Posted by norseman

Christianity or [as I prefer to call it], Churchianity, has very little to do with Christ.

Norseman is correct; These corporate religions say they follow Christ and the Bible, yet they do exactly the opposite of what Christ said.

All of the killing started when Constantine founded the big corporate Church of Rome, then it was war on all other religions and mass slaughters. They even killed other Christians that would not conform to their doctrine.

Before Rome took over Christianity, many Christians held to the teachings of Christ, yet still prayed to the Pagan Gods and even preformed folk magic. The early Christians were very diverse in their beliefs and practices. Of course, Rome would not have any of that and decided to hold councils and define for the known world just what Christianity was and was not.. and that nonsense is still perpetuated today through organized religion.

On the other hand, many Christians are dropping out of the churches and finding their own path. Many of which blend their Christianity with Wicca and other Pagan based belief systems.

Have you heard of Christo-Paganism? Many people refer to themselves as such these days. The ideas of who and what Jesus was varies among Christo-Pagans and some even take a more cosmic/metaphorical view of him and do not think that Jesus was a historical person. The point being, all these points of view are accepted among Christo-Pagans and no one tries to convert or correct anybody else... Many Christo-Pagans even have a patron, Pagan God and Goddess that they work with.

So, to answer your question Honza... The religion of what norseman referred to as Churchianty is to blame for all of the tension and problems. Had Rome never interfered and turned Christianity into what it is today; I think Christianity and Paganism would have existed harmoniously side by side and learned much from one another... And I think they still can, and will as spirituality evolves.

[Honza]

Great post Mind's Eye. You always bring something unexpected to the table.....

Originally Posted by Honza

Great post Mind's Eye. You always bring something unexpected to the table.....

Thanks Honza; I try!