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Originally Posted by green
thanks Mac for your words and story.
if to sum up all that been said here: as of a general answer:
* it is most likely some-spirit will be there to wellcome the crossing spirit.
* uhmar said, that there are some very special souls that do not require this special welcoming.
* mac said some souls are punished as to not be helped..if i got you right mac.
can we then conclude that the logical possible answer that someone will cross over and there be no one to welcome him or her with no real reason is not really possible??? 
and that: most of us will be welcome by spirits of those who crossed over, some light spirits and angles..
did i miss something?
but i must admit that as for myself, i feel there is a gap between what i know ad what i feel. i don't know how to bridge it, it might be my fear it might be other things but as i said, i believe the final answer will be answered on real time 
thank you all for your help and support
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"* mac said some souls are punished as to not be helped..if i got you right mac." No that's not what I was saying at all.
No-one is punished after her/his passing - that's the mainstream church interpretation of what happens after death. Just another issue where many/most religions have it wrong. To support what I say would need many words more, words I am not convinced would help you.
Uhmar's reference to certain elevated souls not needing a 'welcoming group' is correct but that is very much the exception to the general rule for regular folks. There
are certain highly-evolved entities whose purpose here was/is very special.
Because their spiritual advancement is so great, leaving the physical plane will be as nothing to them and they will have immediate cognisance of where they are. Their stay in the lower levels will be brief if they remain there at all - more likely is that they will move immediately to the level from which they originally came to carry out their mission on earth. Interesting though these individuals are, they do not fit any pattern which would mean much to us mere mortals.
"can we then conclude that the logical possible answer that someone will cross over and there be no one to welcome him or her with no real reason is not really possible???" I think that's a fair conclusion but it has to be said that certain individuals may fail to see that situation....
Where beliefs are held so strongly that, for example, the 'dead' are believed to lie asleep until the trumpet call to resurrection is heard, then those individuals may create for themselves an almost impenetrable barrier beyond which no-one can readily reach, discarnate or incarnate alike.
In that state they may 'sleep' for a very long time before they eventually begin to wake to the realisation that what they
believed for so long simply isn't the case. They may need much loving support after such an awakening.
As I write, G, I also realise that something may be preventing your acceptance of such simple principles. What you know and what you feel is, sadly, the same thing. Somehow what you know is an incomplete and muddled picture which has confused your thoughts and ideas and left you with concerns.
I don't know what else I might do to help you and that's a sadness but maybe others will succeed where I am failing.
I very much hope so.
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