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20-03-2019, 08:10 AM
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Pathfinder
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I think that the division between various spiritual teachings and religions is artificial, in the foundation they all teach the same things. Or might look it from another perspective, there gives no indian love, japanish love, american love, german love, hindu love,christian love, islam love, taoist love,...there gives only love. There gives no African compassion, Thai Compassion, Caribbean Compassion,..there gives only compassion. So people make many artificial differences and some are going even to war for it. Even here are people willing to bash each other. Yes there gives various methods, many different ways how to achieve peace of mind, happiness, liberation,..but there gives no such thing as Japanise peace of mind, German peace of mind, Christian peace of mind or Buddhist peace of mind, Hindu peace of mind,..there gives only peace of mind. There gives no Buddhist enlightenment, Hindu enlightenment or Christian enlightenment, it gives only enlightenment, we are all talking about the same thing. And how people reach or come to those stages or realizations can vary from a person to person afterall each of us is unique, the same as each tree is unique.
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20-03-2019, 08:33 AM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Originally Posted by Honza
To be fair the post that I was referring to mentioned the dark side of Christianity as well as the dark side of Eastern religion. It was saying both have a dark side.
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21-03-2019, 02:10 AM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Prajñānam brahma - Brahman is pure consciousness (Aitareya Upanishad 3.3 of the Rig Veda)
Strictly speaking, it is pure consciousness devoid of desires in the form of cravings and aversions that is stated to be Brahman or God. All of us have this pure consciousness within us , but it is adulterated by our numerous desires in the form of cravings and aversions, from which springs all vices such as greed, hatred, lust, ego, jealousy, sense of separativeness from the rest of existence and so on.
The person who is established in pure consciousness is quite different from the person he is when he is in a state of impure consciousness due to the influence of numerous desires. The man who is established in pure consciousness is stated to be enlightened as per eastern philosophy.
The 'I am' state is considered to be of a pure state of consciousness by Nisargadatta .
Establish yourself firmly in the awareness of "I am" and reject all that does not go with it. This is the beginning and also the end of all endeavour. - Nisargadatta Maharaj
The 'I am' state of pure consciousness is also emphasized by Jehovah as well...
Jehovah - “I AM THAT I AM” (Exodus 3:14)
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When even one virtue becomes our nature, the mind becomes clean and tranquil. Then there is no need to practice meditation; we will automatically be meditating always. ~ Swami Satchidananda
Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1
If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
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21-03-2019, 06:25 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: God's House
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Originally Posted by ajay00
The 'I am' state of pure consciousness is also emphasized by Jehovah as well...
Jehovah - “I AM THAT I AM” (Exodus 3:14)
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There have been numerous discussions about what Yahweh actually called Himself. According to the Jews the name Jehovah is such a bad translation of God's name that it is not really viable.
The Jews call God Yahweh which is also not really translatable as I AM THAT I AM.
The Christian scholars cut a few corners here.
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21-03-2019, 02:50 PM
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Guide
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Originally Posted by Honza
The Jews call God Yahweh which is also not really translatable as I AM THAT I AM.
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All it means is "stuff happens".
There is no one and nothing which orchestrates the stuff. It is just natural laws, some of which we know, some which we don't.
Consciousness is a stupid word for what underlies all existence because it comes with a lot of baggage, awareness, knowledge, direction, etc. Whatever existence of any sort is based upon has no such attributes. |
24-03-2019, 04:46 PM
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Master
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,301
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Originally Posted by Honza
There have been numerous discussions about what Yahweh actually called Himself. According to the Jews the name Jehovah is such a bad translation of God's name that it is not really viable.
The Jews call God Yahweh which is also not really translatable as I AM THAT I AM.
The Christian scholars cut a few corners here.
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In Islamic Sufism as well, Fana, the state of self-annihilation ( similar to moksha and Nirvana), is stated to represent the state of pure consciousness of and abidance in God.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fana_(Sufism)
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When even one virtue becomes our nature, the mind becomes clean and tranquil. Then there is no need to practice meditation; we will automatically be meditating always. ~ Swami Satchidananda
Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1
If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
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