Satan and his demons?

[starnight1]

May i ask,If demons r created by God ...?
And since everything is on ascension,
so demons r on this path,
and in the end they will be transformed to light?
because God is light and love,
God is source, everything comes from and go to source,
all r in One.

Is that so?

I m just confused,
thanks.

[Amilius777]

Not if they are unwilling to change. God can not just force entities into a state of mind because first off it is evil for God to impose, second it is unlawful since there are many beings who have taken the effort to become beings of light, third it is everyone's free will to go their way.

Remember christ mentioned eternal hell which basically means a state of mind that is entrapped in an ever continuous cycle of evil. But because hell is a state t is possible to be overcome- the problem is that demons are unwilling or unable to turn back. God can only do what he can do and allow evil to have a part in his divine play. He allows evil to wreck havoc until it destroys itself and becomes a tool for good and God's will. This act of divine triumph is he only way for God to open possibilities for satanic entities to finally see the light OR hope they see the light and truth in their defeat

Thinking about Satan is great cause for over thinking that can occupy too much space in my brain ...

The shadow self is w/in us challenging us to make wise decisions on a daily basis ...
That is all I need to be conscious of ...

[Fairyana]

Starnight, I don't believe God created evil. If God is infinite love and wisdom, then He is not capable of creating evil, because if there were any microscopic speck of evil deed from him, such as creating evil, then He would not be infinite love and therefore, not God. If God is infinite in His perfection, there is no way anything demonic comes from him.

God is light, darkness is not caused by light, darkness is caused by the absence of light! (Albert Einstein [?])

That is how I see it. Evil and demonic entities are spiritual beings that have run away or are hiding from the light/God and God created all as blank slates. God being infinitely just, created all souls as equals with free will in order for us to experience life and develop our consciousness through many reincarnations.

In that same logic, I don't believe the devil was a fallen angel. You see, an angel is a highly developed spirit (that was once the blank slate, neither good nor bad. God is infinitely just, He wouldn't create few perfect angelic beings and the rest of us to struggle because that would be very unfair), and in order to reach such a high spiritual development, one has to have overcome many, many reincarnations ago, the very attitude that would have caused a spirit to act such bad a way. What could have happened is that the spirit, being created by God fell to the lower realms of spirituality because it chose the path of ignorance, of what is evil, of rebellion, etc. But in no way was he an angel. He was far from one and in becoming evil in no way can he equal God in evilness because evil is self-destructive which is by itself very limiting.

This is all based in the Spiritist understanding of things. (book Heaven and Hell by Allan Kardec)

[Simon_Templar]

demons could be biology made a "soul" by virtue of nuclear warfare .. satans omniscience surely

[emerge]

Hmmmm.

Satan was created by the church, that I know. I know that demons exist. I've dealt with them before.

But who created evil? If God didn't create evil then who did? Is there another God? Many Gods?

If there is only one God and if God is all knowing and if God never wanted evil to exist then why did he create the Angels that fell? If God knows everything then he knew what was going to happen before he created them and therefore wouldn't have created the Angels that fell in the first place. Why did he create any life form that he knew was going was going to turn evil unless God created evil for a specific purpose and we humans in our limited understanding just don't know why.

So maybe evil isn't so evil and has it's own purpose. Maybe evil is merely a point of view.

Maybe evil is here to teach us something.... some people learn lessons the easy way and some learn lessons the hard way. Maybe evil is how some people learn things the hard way? I don't really know but, I've read that somewhere before.

[Smiler]

Hi Amilius

There are books and there are experiences, and not all things are self created fears in a persons mind as I have heard some -one mention on here before.

Just as there are levels of light to God ..and humans, beings, life forces working or working through those levels.

There are levels to Old Nick ..Beings, entity's, and Yes they can be in a human body.

Its not a cartoon and its really not funny at all .

We talk from this Universe ..what if the prize for Evil was fuel..energy ..life force. Think Of a Hologram presented and having the ability to see what it is made up of .. Evil spirits can form a cluster ..How Do I know ..well lets say I did not read it in a book.


I like your thread BTW
Love & Light
:)

[emerge]

I went to the Channeling Forum and asked if anyone had posted a channeled message about the purpose of evil and asked for a link. (I did a search without any luck) I've received no links but several people gave some interesting responses. If you're interested reading what was written here's where to go.....

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ad.php?t=59541