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Old 18-11-2018, 12:57 AM
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again i wish to note im simply speaking from my opinion and experience.




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Old 18-11-2018, 06:13 PM
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Gracey - 'I' am/is 'blown away' by your observational tendencies and capabilities!

My spirit-love-orientation, however, impels me to wonder about the 'why' (i,e. 'what' is the purpose) which impelled YOU to be 'attracted' to and SO 'make' all of the (amazing!) 'observations' which you have shared. What do you think/imagine 'attracted' YOU such encounters? What do YOU wish/hope 'comes' from such 'observations'?

Get back to me (please) on what YOU think-n-feek about this subject, either here or via PM.
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Old 19-12-2018, 05:19 AM
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Hell is not a joyous place, I think I've been there in my dreams, it might have many different manifestations, but if not, there is at least one form of Hell that I've experienced in dreams that was definitely very bad, I was stuck on the ground on my back and couldn't move an inch, the atmosphere was a vivid, angry, chaotic red, and there was a cauldron in the middle of a vast, dark field, out of which a strange, insect-like, alien-looking creature crawled and it came toward me, I tried to move away but I couldn't, then the dream ended.
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Old 19-12-2018, 01:41 PM
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Hell is not a joyous place, I think I've been there in my dreams, it might have many different manifestations, but if not, there is at least one form of Hell that I've experienced in dreams that was definitely very bad, I was stuck on the ground on my back and couldn't move an inch, the atmosphere was a vivid, angry, chaotic red, and there was a cauldron in the middle of a vast, dark field, out of which a strange, insect-like, alien-looking creature crawled and it came toward me, I tried to move away but I couldn't, then the dream ended.
Hi there, Ahriman -

From the book I wrote:
"If you aren’t aware of the attendant possibilities for negative ramification, you might simply expect our higher degree of Intelligence to be an unqualified blessing. However, the fact is, we each run the very real risk of sinking and drowning in a psychospiritual hell of our own making until we learn to float and swim in the boundless flow of conscious*ness that results from our developing to the point where we partake of ‘the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge’.

Unlike creatures with lesser capacity, we grow past the stage of simple innocence. Whether we personally want to or not, all but the most feeble-minded among us develop and savor a vast range of ideas about what is ‘better’ and what is ‘worse’, as well as ‘how much’ better or worse a specific other condition or circumstance would be, as a result of our capacity for logical comparison and imaginative projection."
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Old 24-12-2018, 04:19 PM
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Gracey I am late to find this thread. I have visited 'heavens' before. Sometimes in the dream state sometimes in visions.

The Infinite Light/God or whatever you want to call the Creator has nothing but understanding and love for us and wants us to be happy. We are allowed to do whatever we want if it makes us happy, though we will be confined in an area that we will not harm persons of different persuasions.

Once I had a dream. It was a dream of the end of my last life. I was being kindly escorted to another planet. On the way we passed a whole body of people completely intertwined engaged in multiple sex acts, floating out in the middle of space! One mass of bodies. I was to understand that these persons were engaged in sex because it was their obsession and they wanted to be there.

We all evolve. We experience everything. Anything we want. When we evolve we move on to the next thing we want to experience. It's how we grow and learn.
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Old 24-12-2018, 05:25 PM
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Gracey I am late to find this thread. I have visited 'heavens' before. Sometimes in the dream state sometimes in visions.

The Infinite Light/God or whatever you want to call the Creator has nothing but understanding and love for us and wants us to be happy. We are allowed to do whatever we want if it makes us happy, though we will be confined in an area that we will not harm persons of different persuasions.

Once I had a dream. It was a dream of the end of my last life. I was being kindly escorted to another planet. On the way we passed a whole body of people completely intertwined engaged in multiple sex acts, floating out in the middle of space! One mass of bodies. I was to understand that these persons were engaged in sex because it was their obsession and they wanted to be there.

We all evolve. We experience everything. Anything we want. When we evolve we move on to the next thing we want to experience. It's how we grow and learn.

Robert Monroe describes visiting such a place during one of his out-of-body experiences. Many humans experience lives of sexual frustration so they try to find sexual satisfaction by engaging in mass sexual activity when no longer in the body. According to Robert Monroe the sexual desperation of the participants was deeply depressing.

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Old 24-12-2018, 05:28 PM
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Interesting iamthat. Thank you for the confirmation to what Robert Monroe experienced. I haven't read much on him simply because I haven't had the time.
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Old 25-12-2018, 12:42 AM
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Gracey I am late to find this thread. I have visited 'heavens' before. Sometimes in the dream state sometimes in visions.

The Infinite Light/God or whatever you want to call the Creator has nothing but understanding and love for us and wants us to be happy. We are allowed to do whatever we want if it makes us happy, though we will be confined in an area that we will not harm persons of different persuasions.

Once I had a dream. It was a dream of the end of my last life. I was being kindly escorted to another planet. On the way we passed a whole body of people completely intertwined engaged in multiple sex acts, floating out in the middle of space! One mass of bodies. I was to understand that these persons were engaged in sex because it was their obsession and they wanted to be there.

We all evolve. We experience everything. Anything we want. When we evolve we move on to the next thing we want to experience. It's how we grow and learn.




so these peoples bodies having sex like the nature that snakes do...I have seen that too. Humans and all the other life's earths creatures share the same variety of sex drives and wills.



Eons ago, I use to operate the "machine" that reincarnates evil into humans here on Earth. Going through my old dream journals, I have dreams written down describing this duty I had. I don't remember dreaming it, but there it is written down. Then decades later, when I was with my dead fiance when he was reborn into physical reality once again, it all came back to me clear as day, I remembered the mechanics of reincarnation. I remembered operating the "machine" I saw in front of me as he stood in line to be reborn.

I remember my last life and how I died as well and I remember being born into this one. I was called up from oblivion against my own will to be born. All the other countless life's I have had, it was my will to be born. This life of mine now is different, not my will.
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Old 25-12-2018, 01:52 PM
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Eons ago, I use to operate the "machine" that reincarnates evil into humans here on Earth. Going through my old dream journals, I have dreams written down describing this duty I had. I don't remember dreaming it, but there it is written down. Then decades later, when I was with my dead fiance when he was reborn into physical reality once again, it all came back to me clear as day, I remembered the mechanics of reincarnation. I remembered operating the "machine" I saw in front of me as he stood in line to be reborn.

I remember my last life and how I died as well and I remember being born into this one. I was called up from oblivion against my own will to be born. All the other countless life's I have had, it was my will to be born. This life of mine now is different, not my will.
Interesting, Gracey. Given that I think/believe that Life (in general) is its 'own' power-source and that, in line with this belief, my understanding of the 'mechanics' of reincarnation is such that the choice to be reborn and the basic 'nature' (or 'character') of the life that is chosen is as described/portrayed in Michael Newton's books (also as described as ion Seth Speaks), I am inclined to think that what transpires in your (anyone's dreams) is your personal interpretation of your personal experience of 'reality' - not necessarily the (whole) truth about whatever it is that is being 'perceived'.

Believing so, I am inclined to think that your 'sense' that there is a 'machine' (kind of thing) which incarnates 'evil' into reincarnating souls to carry with them and deal with (or not) in their next life may be a projection based on an incomplete theory/understanding of the process (of your trying to understand the presence of 'evil' in the world).

I also think that "I was called up from oblivion against my own will to be born." and "This life of mine now is different, not my will." probably is (i.e. may also be) a projection deriving from such incomplete understanding (of how any kind of soul becomes 'incarnate').

I know that I could very well be 'wrong' about all this. It is the theory which I believe and go on because it makes the most sense to me at present. I project that I will find out how close it is to the 'real' (?) truth when I am in full 'soul' mode: "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. I Corinthians, 13.

I just offer the above perspective (projection ) for your contemplative pleasure.
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Old 25-12-2018, 04:31 PM
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so these peoples bodies having sex like the nature that snakes do...I have seen that too. Humans and all the other life's earths creatures share the same variety of sex drives and wills.

I was on what I call the gray planet once. It was inhabited with gossipers. I called them 'the murmurers'. If you ever watch a golf game. Pay attention to the crowd of observers. Especially when they murmur.

Everything is like that. We get to fulfill our obsessions. Not just sex. And there is no test. No grading. No pass or fail. We just keep moving forward, until we graduate.
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