What is Realization?

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

Hi James: No, i mean 'the being' that chops wood and carries water, can you give me an example where any one being acts without awareness of its "I"ness.. where it acts apart from its own unique "collection of thoughts, beliefs, and memories of experiences and existence".. what i am suggesting, is that if you take 100 people, give each of them an axe and a bucket, and tell them to go "chop wood and carry water", that each will perform differently by greater and lesser degrees, but.. each will perform in accordance with the evolution of their personal "collection of thoughts, beliefs, and memories of experiences and existence".. "I"/self is a convenient reference, and to your claim that "I" is a thought, yes it is.. and, that "I" thought exerts its own unique force of existence on what 'is' happening, the chopping and carrying, in its 100 different "I" ways...

That a being performs in accordance with its evolved self-awareness, in a uniquely identifiable "I" way, is an observably accurate statement. That "I" can 'think' about "I", manifesting an "I" thought, in no way renders "I" less real that its observable and quantifiable effect on its environment.. if "I" chop down the tree that falls on your automobile, it was this 'Tzu' "I", and no other "I" that chopped down the tree.. The Buddha "I", or the Jesus "I", or the Hitler "I", each exerted their unique force of existence upon reality and the environment, and it was the evolution of their unique "collection of thoughts, beliefs, and memories of experiences and existence" that "I"dentified them.. we understand the difference between Hitler and Jesus and Buddha, right?

Be well..

Have you drawn conclusions about "I" from this that you observe above?

[Uma]

Originally Posted by Xan

Why do you think they call it realization?

The state of enlightenment is also called self-realization or God-realization. It’s called “realization” because the great, enlightened beings have “realized” one fact — a fact that has implications on every element of life as they know it.

They’ve realized the omnipresence of divinity. They’ve realized that everything is one, and that knowledge and the knowing of that knowledge are inseparable. They realize that what you see is what you get, what you get is what you see, and what you see is who you are. In other words, it takes one to know one. We are the world, indeed.

Realization is not just about reading some words and being able to discuss or debate them; but rather to realize the essence behind spiritual insights such as “In the beginning was the word, and the word was God,” “Everything is one,” “The kingdom of Heaven lies within,” or “Thou art That.”

Once you realize the essence of spiritual teachings and make them an integral part of your reality, these teachings filter through and transform your entire world. Your sense of limited individuality fades like a mirage that had been blocking the bright sunlight of supreme truth. As this supreme light blasts through you unimpeded by mortal illusions of limitation and separation, you become enlightened. You emanate not only your own personal human light, but also a higher, more universal light.

Before becoming forever established in the highest realization, you may touch that enlightened space for a while and then return back to limited thinking. Even when you’re feeling limited, remembering the higher spaces you’ve touched helps to keep you moving forward toward your divine birthright of knowing who you are in the highest sense at all times.

And life goes on . . .

Xan,

It's more than just a knowing - it's a transformation on ALL levels of being. It's existing in the celestial planes while having your feet firmly planted in this root chakra dimension - that's jeewan mukti - freedom whilst in a human body.
This world becomes energy in motion, and it's slow motion, and the self-realized one is not in another space but at home watching the rest of the world lost in dreams within dreams.

And it's bliss - bliss in the midst of chaos.

It's so much more than intellectual knowledge. Much much more.

Yvonne

The state of enlightenment is also called self-realization or God-realization. It’s called “realization” because the great, enlightened beings have “realized” one fact — a fact that has implications on every element of life as they know it.

They’ve realized the omnipresence of divinity. They’ve realized that everything is one, and that knowledge and the knowing of that knowledge are inseparable. They realize that what you see is what you get, what you get is what you see, and what you see is who you are. In other words, it takes one to know one. We are the world, indeed.

[color=Black][i]Realization is not just about reading some words and being able to discuss or debate them; but rather to realize the essence behind spiritual insights such as “In the beginning was the word, and the word was God,” “Everything is one,” “The kingdom of Heaven lies within,” or “Thou art That.”

Before becoming forever established in the highest realization, you may touch that enlightened space for a while and then return back to limited thinking. Even when you’re feeling limited, remembering the higher spaces you’ve touched helps to keep you moving forward toward your divine birthright of knowing who you are in the highest sense at all times.

It is not all about Self-realization that counts-
isn't it about being able view and observe everything when someone put himself/herself out of equation?

Greetings..

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

Have you drawn conclusions about "I" from this that you observe above?

I have understandings about "I".. those understandings are subject to change, based on new or revised information..

Be well..

Originally Posted by Uma

Xan,

It's more than just a knowing - it's a transformation on ALL levels of being. It's existing in the celestial planes while having your feet firmly planted in this root chakra dimension - that's jeewan mukti - freedom whilst in a human body.
This world becomes energy in motion, and it's slow motion, and the self-realized one is not in another space but at home watching the rest of the world lost in dreams within dreams.

And it's bliss - bliss in the midst of chaos.

It's so much more than intellectual knowledge. Much much more.

Yvonne

Your post is brilliant..

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

I have understandings about "I".. those understandings are subject to change, based on new or revised information..

Be well..

Cool...............

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Xan

Trusting yourself is realizing yourself.

Trusting life is realizing yourself as life.

This is an invitation to our thinking minds to open in trust.

We can trust that there is a knowing that is out of the realm of thoughts or emotions or circumstances.

When we deeply trust, our minds open to discover what is true, regardless of what we are feeling.

The deepest trust is a by-product of this true realization.

- Gangaji

Love Gangaji.