THE UNCONSCIOUS MIND.

Honza · #1 12-10-2018, 09:06 AM

THE UNCONSCIOUS MIND.

I've been doing a lot of reading and discussing about consciousness in order to try and heal my symptoms. It occurred to me this morning that I may be trying to apply a hammer to my unconscious mind. I might be trying to force it.
The internet is full of 'self-help' sites and advice. They all concentrate upon the consciousness, positive thinking etc. My insight is that I might be overloading my poor unconscious self and thus making myself ill that way.

They say that the self is 90% unconscious. I might be trying to force too much consciousness upon it. It makes me wonder how spiritual practice or religion affects the unconsciousness???

Baile · #2 12-10-2018, 09:42 AM

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My insight is that I might be overloading my poor unconscious self and thus making myself ill that way.

I would say "mental overload" is the modern illness problem for society in general. One can see it in the way many people approach spirituality: all thinking and intellect and conceptualizing, and no practical action and self-development work. It really is this simple: a very real walk in the woods and observing nature, is much more healing than abstract theorizing online about how to manifest (fill in the blank) in one's life.

You relate to Jesus. Feel the love that Jesus spoke of. Share that love with the world. That's all you need to do, that's healing. Past that, don't spend mental energy trying to figure out all the abstract ideas people discuss when they talk about Jesus and so forth. The mental aspect is not healing, and too much of it creates illness.

sky · #3 12-10-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Honza

THE UNCONSCIOUS MIND.

I've been doing a lot of reading and discussing about consciousness in order to try and heal my symptoms. It occurred to me this morning that I may be trying to apply a hammer to my unconscious mind. I might be trying to force it.
The internet is full of 'self-help' sites and advice. They all concentrate upon the consciousness, positive thinking etc. My insight is that I might be overloading my poor unconscious self and thus making myself ill that way.

They say that the self is 90% unconscious. I might be trying to force too much consciousness upon it. It makes me wonder how spiritual practice or religion affects the unconsciousness???

Leave the 'Unconscious ' unconscious, concentrate on the ' Now ' and like Baile recommended, spend sometime amongst nature, go and hug a tree or take a walk in the wind, it blows the cobwebs away....

Honza · #4 13-10-2018, 10:11 AM

The unconscious mind is rather unusual and interesting. I think my unconscious mind has picked up on my discontent with I AM and it has now made an issue of it.

In the sense that I am continually bombarded with accusations, queries and anger about I AM. Freudian psychology would make some sense of this situation. I may have suppressed my ego with all my worries about I AM.

It is a curious situation I have got myself into.

Baile · #5 13-10-2018, 11:09 AM

I actually clicked on your thread again because I wanted to acknowledge your first post. That's a brave thing to say, that working with "mind concepts" can cause illness. I was with a Christian cult for many years. I woke up one day, literally from one moment to the next, suddenly realizing that all that belief-intellectualizing was causing serious illness in me. It's a very real thing. Good for you to see that, that's the first step to healing.

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In the sense that I am continually bombarded with accusations, queries and anger about I AM.

That's projection. You have started 400+ threads, posting your very vocal opinions on many subjects. You constantly attack and put down I AM followers, and new-age and Hindu philosophies. People online respond to others who loudly vocalize their critical opinions, that's the nature of social media. You are not a victim here, you are a willing participant who often starts it all off.

I don't post on many of your threads. It's only when you accuse new age and Hindu philosophy as being some sort of problem, is when I step in to "nudge" and correct you. A philosophy is never the problem; the problem is with institutions, and specific individuals who follow the philosophy, and what they do with it.

Baile · #6 13-10-2018, 11:37 AM

It just occurred to me that I may have misinterpreted your comment, I am continually bombarded... If you mean your mind is being bombarded with these thoughts, directed against you, then I apologize for misunderstanding.

That said, I will point out that you are the creator of those thoughts, if you don't understand that already. They do not just happen; they don't come from outside you. You create them. And you can learn to control and transform them.

sky · #7 13-10-2018, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Honza

The unconscious mind is rather unusual and interesting. I think my unconscious mind has picked up on my discontent with I AM and it has now made an issue of it.

In the sense that I am continually bombarded with accusations, queries and anger about I AM. Freudian psychology would make some sense of this situation. I may have suppressed my ego with all my worries about I AM.

It is a curious situation I have got myself into.

You can get out of your curious situation if you choose to.

" When this is, that comes to be; with the arising of this, that arises. When this is not, that does not come to be; with the cessation of this, that ceases "

Honza · #8 13-10-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Baile

It just occurred to me that I may have misinterpreted your comment, I am continually bombarded... If you mean your mind is being bombarded with these thoughts, directed against you, then I apologize for misunderstanding.

Yes that was my meaning.

Honza · #9 13-10-2018, 01:22 PM

The 'bombardment' comes from my unconscious mind into my conscious mind. I know I can change this. It is however a slow and delicate process.

sky · #10 13-10-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Honza

The unconscious mind is rather unusual and interesting. I think my unconscious mind has picked up on my discontent with I AM and it has now made an issue of it.

In the sense that I am continually bombarded with accusations, queries and anger about I AM. Freudian psychology would make some sense of this situation. I may have suppressed my ego with all my worries about I AM.

It is a curious situation I have got myself into.

Why are you discontented about the beliefs of others?

Btw, it wasn't Freud who invented/discovered the unconscious mind.