Psychic Vampirism in the astral and how it works. (Warning: A lot to read!)

[Perry J]

About the "consent": It is not a decision where you are actually aware of these beings. It is more lika a decision not to be responsible for your life. A decision to no longer make decisions, but letting the ego take over. Then your energy field is weakened. But I recommend reading those links. I promise it is worth the effort.

[WhiteWarrior]

Originally Posted by earthatic

Everyone has psychic abilities. I could steal energy from a being if I want to and could be called a vampire. It's not like ethnicity where the person cannot change the way they are, it's more of an act and behavior in my opinion

In my opinion, no. Steal blood from people and you are just a crazy thief. Even if you drink it. It is actually needing the blood to survive that makes you a vampire.

[WhiteWarrior]

Originally Posted by Perry J

About the "consent": It is not a decision where you are actually aware of these beings. It is more lika a decision not to be responsible for your life. A decision to no longer make decisions, but letting the ego take over. Then your energy field is weakened. But I recommend reading those links. I promise it is worth the effort.

You have a lot of personal experience with vampires?

Originally Posted by earthatic

Permanently? Haven't found anything yet...

Based on my understanding, you can't really get rid of them. They have free will and can bother you as much as they please. The best you can do is protect yourself. Give them a reason to think you're not worth the trouble.

Using the authority of Jesus stops attacks 90% of the time. The spirit disappears when I say a prayer or command. Keep a strong guard, resist emotional provocation...DO NOT BE SUBMISSIVE. They feel threatened and discouraged if you see them as an adversary. They're looking for energy, not a fight.

Being negative makes them naturally drift to lower places but they can go into higher places in order to cause nightmares to regular people... they can only go so high, though.
A spirit told me that there are evil groups who coordinate attacks on people during certain hours when people are sleeping (witching hour) to gain energy.

I also forgot to mention that they can read thoughts of their victims and spy on them in order to gain a mental advantage (like appearing as a creature from a horror movie you've seen, a high school bully, ect...to generate fear)

[FONT='Times New Roman','serif']Can a person do it unintentionally? Because at time I feel like I feed of other people's energy but not sure. I get realy hot and feel like there is to much energy around me. any ideas?[/font]

[SpiritCarrier]

For my part let me just say, what one person calls vampirism another might call survival. I support anyone who choose to walk a path that is difficult and yet the right path. What one person calls right another might call naive. What one person calls evil another might call a way of life, an upbringing from ones childhood.

If we are to call everyone who is different from us evil or satanist, then many in the world would be just that. I don't agree that all people have physic ability and yet as a person with such abilities I have been called evil, cursed, a demon even. I am not all those things, I am merely different from those around me. So you can understand my mistrust even anger towards any who would sterotype anyone/being, because of a bad experience or a read that got under their skin.

Years ago anyone who had a talent, such as those displayed on this forum, they were branded as witches and burned at the stake. They were tormented, some in the name of christianity because they were different. I refuse to be part of that past, and what I mean by that statement is this: I refuse to judge or be judge by anyone who has no knowledege of me as an individual. So with that in mind I can only go by the experiences I have had with energy vampires. With those experiences in mind I make the statement again, some chose the path of enlightenment. Some chose to walk the way of light, even though the path is much harder for them. I give them credit and respect as I do anyone who is willing to stand up for their right to exist.

I understand the bad reputation that energy vampires have amassed over the decades. Perhaps this is because others, like me, have not stood up and said, "I have someone in my life who is this and she/he is not a bad person. They are simply different."

I have no answers for anyone except to say this is my belief based on my own personal experiences.

PerryJ,
Consent is in my definition and the dictionaries definition as well: to give assent or approval : agree, to be in concord in opinion or sentiment.

Consent is a decision one makes. If consent is not given then it is taken and in that case it is stolen. One can not have it both ways. I think I will agree to disagree with you in this case. I do not wish to read material that can not be explained by one of its readers. Thank you for your time.

What other reason could there be other than to power the psychic bodies

Ultimately vamps take energy from external sources in order to maintain a semblance of metaphysical and physical health. (The same rules apply to vampiric spirits because incarnate vamps can go out of body too, practically no difference between them without the body.)

But the reasons why their energetic bodies/forms need this energy is more complicated. In my response I was refering specifically to these underlying reasons.

A closed crown, leaking energy system, metaphysical damage or behavioural quirks are only a few of many reasons why some people need to take energy from any external source (energy addiction doesnt count because it is just a want rather than a need and damages those partaking in it over a long period of time.)

As for the vampiric existence being extreemly complicated....well, each vamp has a varied reason for being the way they are, each energy system is different and each has different reasons for and ways of gaining the energy they need to function.

Some are specialised to take only specfic energies. Some need copious amounts of energy or not at different times. Some frequencies of energy are harmfull or helpfull or completely useless. There are different rates of pulling and metabolising energies. different ways of taking energies depending on the situation, environmental factors, where the energy is from and how skilled the vamp is. Every vamp goes through stages in their lives where their needs may change dramatically from one extreem to the other. The places vamps get their energy from are often in direct correlation to how they obtain their energy and how much energy they need at the time.

Nothing about energetic vampirism is simple or fixed.

I could go on and on and on. There is so much that so many people don't take into account when they see energy vampires because to them it often all looks the same from the outside.

All I am saying is that I think it's important to take into account that each and every energetic vamp is as different and complicated as any other person (perhaps moreso that lots of people in some cases,) and unfortunately generalisations usually simply don't encompass at least half of the vampiric population.

Thats all I'll say because I don't want to dominate your thread with my own opinions. I hope I've made my points clear enough for you to follow.

[SpiritCarrier]

One further statement I would like to add is this:

There are and have been many names throughout the centuries for energy vampires. Energy Vampire is just the latest trend or name that some are using. Let me make it simple. What you are calling an energy vampire is simply a physic who is missing a simple gene in their human form which allows them to draw energy the way the rest of us do. Compare it to someone who has some other genitic malfunction. The love of my life has a disorder which deprives him of certain chemicals in his brain, his disoder has had many names over the centuries as well. What it means is that when one is missing something key to their existence they find a way to live without that thing, whether it be replace it with some medication or find a way around the genetic malfunction. For this I have a high respect and as I have stated again and again I will go by my personal experience and not by fad or trend.

I am quite passionate about this because I have been branded as an abomination many times. Simply being different does not make that true.

I agree with Sangress. I will stop posting because I do not want to hijack your thread. I think I have made my position clear. If anyone has further questions for me please feel free to PM me.

Originally Posted by SpiritCarrier

For my part let me just say, what one person calls vampirism another might call survival. I support anyone who choose to walk a path that is difficult and yet the right path. What one person calls right another might call naive. What one person calls evil another might call a way of life, an upbringing from ones childhood.

If we are to call everyone who is different from us evil or satanist, then many in the world would be just that. I don't agree that all people have physic ability and yet as a person with such abilities I have been called evil, cursed, a demon even. I am not all those things, I am merely different from those around me. So you can understand my mistrust even anger towards any who would sterotype anyone/being, because of a bad experience or a read that got under their skin.

Years ago anyone who had a talent, such as those displayed on this forum, they were branded as witches and burned at the stake. They were tormented, some in the name of christianity because they were different. I refuse to be part of that past, and what I mean by that statement is this: I refuse to judge or be judge by anyone who has no knowledege of me as an individual. So with that in mind I can only go by the experiences I have had with energy vampires. With those experiences in mind I make the statement again, some chose the path of enlightenment. Some chose to walk the way of light, even though the path is much harder for them. I give them credit and respect as I do anyone who is willing to stand up for their right to exist.

I understand the bad reputation that energy vampires have amassed over the decades. Perhaps this is because others, like me, have not stood up and said, "I have someone in my life who is this and she/he is not a bad person. They are simply different."

I have no answers for anyone except to say this is my belief based on my own personal experiences.

PerryJ,
Consent is in my definition and the dictionaries definition as well: to give assent or approval : agree, to be in concord in opinion or sentiment.

Consent is a decision one makes. If consent is not given then it is taken and in that case it is stolen. One can not have it both ways. I think I will agree to disagree with you in this case. I do not wish to read material that can not be explained by one of its readers. Thank you for your time.

I agree with what you say, but it just feels too indecisive to me.

In my experience, the consent is more of a submission to them which makes them think they're entitled since you have opened yourself up to them. You don't have to literally sign a contract I doubt most people would intentionally give some astral creeper permission to give night terrors and drain their life force energy...

Originally Posted by SpiritCarrier

One further statement I would like to add is this:

There are and have been many names throughout the centuries for energy vampires. Energy Vampire is just the latest trend or name they some are using. Let me make it simple. What you are calling an energy vampire is simply a physic who is missing a simple gene in their human form which allows them to draw energy the way the rest of us do. Compare it to someone who has some other genitic malfunction. I have the love of my life who has a disorder which deprives him of certain chemicals in his brain, his disoder has had many names over the centuries as well. What it means is that when one is missing something key to their existence they find a way to live without that thing, whether it be replace it with some medication or find a way around the genetic malfunction. For this I have a high respect and as I have stated again and again I will go by my personal experience and not by fad or trend.

I am quite passionate about this because I have been branded as an abomination many times. Simply being different does not make that true.

Don't take it that way. I'm using psychic vampire as a general term of a non-physical entity who drains prana, chi, life-force energy, whatever you choose to call it, or distinguish it, w/e through psychic manipulation.

my experience suggests that each of us is involved actively in energy exchange, this energy vampirism you speak of may not be the same thing, but nonetheless, there will be tmes when our relationships place a drain on us.