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Old 02-08-2015, 04:36 PM
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Many religions are intolerant of other ways....other religions. That is our downfall. If we come from "Heart" instead of dogma, we will listen to other stories, other ways, and know that they are all talking about the same thing. We are all singing songs in different keys about the same Source.

True love should be greater than religious conditioning or dogma. But how often is it??

My mother was a Christian, my father an Atheist. I don't know how they managed, but they did for nearly 50 years of marriage. Their only arguments were about money -never about religion.
In islam god is source of all he rules over everything
This leaves no room for spirits or objects to believe in
The moment a muslim belief a spirit or stone or crystal etc
Gave him help he cease to be a muslim for belief of other sources

Allah in islam does not require medium to help a.person
Or rituals to hear or answer u

Its religion that leaves no room for other beliefs
We are intolerant of other religions in our self
But in other people we mostly dont care
People free to choose
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:06 PM
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There are many islamic countries who in 2015 still practise this barbaric treatment. I have just turned the World News off on my TV which was showing a mass mob in an islamic country stoning a homosexual man to death, they remind me off a pack of wild animals, it's disgusting behaviour.

have they ever showed on news muslims doing normal activities ?
like baking a cookie ?
i wonder why they never show that on news
we do have cookies here believe or not lol
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:17 PM
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have they ever showed on news muslims doing normal activities ?
like baking a cookie ?
i wonder why they never show that on news
we do have cookies here believe or not lol

I know that muslims bake cookies I have one in my family.
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Old 02-08-2015, 05:27 PM
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I know that muslims bake cookies I have one in my family.
it's just sad they only show the world ugly things we do
but they never show normal things we do in life

imagin what people think when they constantly see
only the dark side of certain group of people
and how that will program people to think when they
see one of that group
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Old 02-08-2015, 07:05 PM
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have they ever showed on news muslims doing normal activities ?
like baking a cookie ?
i wonder why they never show that on news
we do have cookies here believe or not lol

my experience with a Muslim country ( a moderate one ) was that where i lived for some time ,
kissing or hugging your girl friend out side in a public place was already a crime that could result in arrest , so was illegal ! just holding hands allowed

most sex my girl friend loved was haram and so not right

seems a woman loose all they like there ? only to serve as baby making tool and ah yes a thing for man to have pleasure with under many guises

no sex by law of god a guy needs to do it . the girl only is his tool
and is not supposed to enjoy it at all

o.k. there is tons more , have fun with your lovey religion

of the dark side where all which is light is shut off

where a human being is a vessel for a set of rules to obey

and feelings and love and equality are in such poor state

ah yes i have been there seen it all know it all heard it all

they are not my rules and its not my world and not my life

and most off all not my reality at all

seems to me Muslim people are fooled in a religion topic based metal lock up

best described as a dictator ship on 'god' and religion' themes that makes them do things

no one some how really would like .

the religion is a holistic shared reality with no other reality to it other that the shared feeling it

gives

the shared things is language based , a got to learn the book and that share the sharedness feeling

not un like many other such systems as 3D science or other religious books or in the past other books

(1930s 40s Germany )

read the book and 'know' share the oneness of that feeling and be part of it

hey it could also be a pile of Donald duck comic books shared the truth is just the same

just the same shared feeling it is that counts and that gives power to the written words

nothing else does , and no further reality is touched in this way .

no love and light no after life is experienced during life

knowledge of past life's remain hidden they have no place in that :-)

some day this knowledge of the power of shared sameness will be come place

and o boy would we feel strange thinking about so much that goes on around us these days

as the world is experienced in such a limited way by so many still

why these dictatorships based on religion exist ?

karma

mistake wrong balance between male and female in the family

creates a karma reflected back as dictator government based on same theme

returning the created karma to its subjects

karma ! a simple as that !

so you call a not understanding how a human being works with his energies a religion ?

funny stuff , quite a joke of kids thinking a puppet show is real and creating a world around it

they call real full of silly nonsense creating a great big mess for all involved in the game they made up

lets bake some cookies i am sure its worth while thinking or talking about ;-)
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:18 PM
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Its hard to fool a person in their own language
Wouldnt u agree ?



It is easy to fool a person in any language, but I know you are a very good person. So I will remind you of something, when you say only the Arabs can understand the Qur'an, that is the same thing that the Catholic priests said about the Bible. They only know the language so they need to interpret its meaning for everyone. Well I think you know how that worked out. And besides the Arabic that the Qur'an is written in, is not the same as the Arabic used today. I study from seven different English translations of the Qur'an and about 98% of them are translated the same. The other 2% that is different can be interpolated between the different translations to find the true meaning. But at the end of the Day, it is still and always will be the Almighty One that guides a person to truth.

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Old 03-08-2015, 02:18 PM
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my experience with a Muslim country ( a moderate one ) was that where i lived for some time ,
kissing or hugging your girl friend out side in a public place was already a crime that could result in arrest , so was illegal ! just holding hands allowed

most sex my girl friend loved was haram and so not right

seems a woman loose all they like there ? only to serve as baby making tool and ah yes a thing for man to have pleasure with under many guises

no sex by law of god a guy needs to do it . the girl only is his tool
and is not supposed to enjoy it at all

o.k. there is tons more , have fun with your lovey religion

of the dark side where all which is light is shut off

where a human being is a vessel for a set of rules to obey

and feelings and love and equality are in such poor state

ah yes i have been there seen it all know it all heard it all

they are not my rules and its not my world and not my life

and most off all not my reality at all

seems to me Muslim people are fooled in a religion topic based metal lock up

best described as a dictator ship on 'god' and religion' themes that makes them do things

no one some how really would like .

the religion is a holistic shared reality with no other reality to it other that the shared feeling it

gives

the shared things is language based , a got to learn the book and that share the sharedness feeling

not un like many other such systems as 3D science or other religious books or in the past other books

(1930s 40s Germany )

read the book and 'know' share the oneness of that feeling and be part of it

hey it could also be a pile of Donald duck comic books shared the truth is just the same

just the same shared feeling it is that counts and that gives power to the written words

nothing else does , and no further reality is touched in this way .

no love and light no after life is experienced during life

knowledge of past life's remain hidden they have no place in that :-)

some day this knowledge of the power of shared sameness will be come place

and o boy would we feel strange thinking about so much that goes on around us these days

as the world is experienced in such a limited way by so many still

why these dictatorships based on religion exist ?

karma

mistake wrong balance between male and female in the family

creates a karma reflected back as dictator government based on same theme

returning the created karma to its subjects

karma ! a simple as that !

so you call a not understanding how a human being works with his energies a religion ?

funny stuff , quite a joke of kids thinking a puppet show is real and creating a world around it

they call real full of silly nonsense creating a great big mess for all involved in the game they made up

lets bake some cookies i am sure its worth while thinking or talking about ;-)

Ahhh so precious how people express a phobia
If we are what u say how come u worked up so much
And annoyed by our religion
It certinally seems not worthless to u
If u gave it time to rant your islamophobic post is it
Heheheh
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Old 03-08-2015, 02:26 PM
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It is easy to fool a person in any language, but I know you are a very good person. So I will remind you of something, when you say only the Arabs can understand the Qur'an, that is the same thing that the Catholic priests said about the Bible. They only know the language so they need to interpret its meaning for everyone. Well I think you know how that worked out. And besides the Arabic that the Qur'an is written in, is not the same as the Arabic used today. I study from seven different English translations of the Qur'an and about 98% of them are translated the same. The other 2% that is different can be interpolated between the different translations to find the true meaning. But at the end of the Day, it is still and always will be the Almighty One that guides a person to truth.

mj

Never said only arab understand quran i said only
Us know when verse been changed
There are details in arabic no.matter how much
Non arab study they cannot understand
A single vow over letter define differnce in meaning

And since one believe quran is word of god
It cannot contain language flaws
Therfore the meaning leaves no room for doubt

IIn quran it said : whatever the prophet told u to do take it
And whatever he denied u do not take

And since quran valid for all times this verse is valid all times
So what mohammad brought beside quran his teaching
Explainations and hadith
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