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24-04-2011, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by agiosotheos
Is this a serious question?
Christianity I have the most experience with
this process should have nothing to do with war.
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yes it is a serious question
try and get out more, christianity today may not be what you think it is
again, spiritual war, do you know what that means
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24-04-2011, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
try and get out more, christianity today may not be what you think it is
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I'm interacting with Christians everyday in a religious and even particularly doctrinal context. Don't attempt to fall back on the idea that I don't have sufficient experiential knowledge. You have no idea what experience I have.
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
again, spiritual war, do you know what that means
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Oh great. The apparent meaning (and probably even the one you originally intended) fails so you waffle off to this "spiritual warfare" idea.
Well it won't do you any good anyway. Yes, I know what it means, and it doesn't even have to do with combating other humans, but rather demons.
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24-04-2011, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nightowl
Something else that is important to remember about history and the influence of religion in the history is it rarely was the only reason that countries went to war. Much of the catalyst had to do with obtaining land, wealth and resources.
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Yeah the Church knew that too
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24-04-2011, 11:55 AM
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Strange, no mention of Malta, just the other guy. Te suppose de lave ta cheveaux pas ta tete.
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24-04-2011, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by agiosotheos
Don't attempt to fall back on the idea that I don't have sufficient experiential knowledge.
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that is what you said, most of your experience is in christianity
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25-04-2011, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
that is what you said, most of your experience is in christianity
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Right...
You were suggesting that I didn't have sufficient experience with Christianity:
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
try and get out more, christianity today may not be what you think it is
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so referring back to my having more experience with Christianity than others (which doesn't even indicate that I have a significant lack of experience with others compared to most) doesn't make sense.
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25-04-2011, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hippocratie
Strange, no mention of Malta, just the other guy. Te suppose de lave ta cheveaux pas ta tete.
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Not sure what you mean here
Would you like to tell us about Malta?
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25-04-2011, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by agiosotheos
...You were suggesting that I didn't have sufficient experience with Christianity...
...so referring back to my having more experience with Christianity than others...
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not really, what would be "sufficient experience"? feel free to explain if you want
yes, the question really is what are you comparing christianity to, as in what other relgion(s) do you have "sufficient experience" with to use as a comparison.
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light is as a pillar on which is a lamp -- the lamp is in a glass, the glass is as it were a brightly shinning star -- lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof gives light, though fire touch it not -- light upon light: The Light:35
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25-04-2011, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew James
not really, what would be "sufficient experience"? feel free to explain if you want
yes, the question really is what are you comparing christianity to, as in what other relgion(s) do you have "sufficient experience" with to use as a comparison.
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I don't see how comparison to other traditions is relevant here. What is being debated is whether those who believe in conversion of other religious groups believe in waging war upon them. The answer to the debate is simply whether they A) believe that it does involve waging war or B) believe it does not involve waging war. The way this answer is derived is from speaking to people who believe in conversion of other religious groups and asking they if A or B is true. How is comparison to other religious groups necessary here?
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26-04-2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by agiosotheos
...How is comparison to other religious groups necessary here?
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it may not, but it goes back to the OP, why did the they need warships with crosses on the sail to show they would die for their god. if you were going to lay down your life for something, would you do it blindly or would you do some research first.
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light is as a pillar on which is a lamp -- the lamp is in a glass, the glass is as it were a brightly shinning star -- lit from a blessed olive tree,
neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof gives light, though fire touch it not -- light upon light: The Light:35
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