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Old 04-04-2019, 05:10 PM
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Thank you for the response and your kind words. I was beginning to believe that my posts weren't showing up again and that the rope was a snake myself.lol

There are two factors which clarify the snake vs rope situation...light and time.

Light can be shone in that darkness, but it also takes time for the realisation to occur. For some, this may be instantaneous, for others, it may take many lifetimes.

As for your question about Sravana Manana Nidhidyasana, I have not encountered this personally, so I cannot offer assistance, however I am up for doing some reading and homework myself.

Yes I relate alot to what you say there regarding light, there is no doubting that illumination could be gradual or sudden apparently, relatively speaking at least..all godo stuff :) Best Regards :)
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Old 04-04-2019, 05:18 PM
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Joe, Ok ,I'm going to make a confession here ...I'm finding it harder
and harder to carry on with people that actually think a chair is a chair...a tree is a tree.


I'm getting more like 'Lucy' everyday!
(Please, Everyone here on this thread esp, see that movie if you haven't!!)

I feel a smile welling up inside ...a prelude to the giggles. Is it not the problem that the peeps who believe the rope is the rope and the chair is the chair carry that on into 'Life' as we know it ? This could be huge speculation on my behalf and maybe im being deluded and cruel but is it not the case that ...Chair is chair people ..find many ways to keep themselves in the game. The game that says a tree is a tree and im better than you and if you dont believe me check your daily chronicle Hey i had to say something !!!
Namaste to you nevertheless !
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Too much intellectual pride and not enough intellectual beauty

To Thine own Self be True

The Frost performs its secret ministry,Unhelped by any wind. Samuel Taylor Coleridge

And you won't find that Love comes easy but that Love is always right.So even when the dark clouds gather you will be the light.

All Intellect falls prey to Love's Glory ! Rumi

He Made the Lock, He also Made the Key ! Rumi
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Old 04-04-2019, 06:59 PM
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And to continue...I mean people that get way full of anxiety...why...cuz they have
the Thought Syndrome of 'the chair is a chair', the rope is a real rope...they just can not grasp -

1. they have created everything around them....
2. they can change everything around them...
3. everything around them is to bring them to a point of wanting to be closer
to Self-realization or God, whatever one calls it...so,
therefore, with insight they can 'see' the why of every situation and flow better...learn from it.

It's hard picking up the pieces of people that refuse to see the rope is more than a rope!
(I am a care giver now of my non-spiritual sister. Oy vey....ha...lol...and I do see the perfection.)

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Old 05-04-2019, 10:53 AM
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And to continue...I mean people that get way full of anxiety...why...cuz they have
the Thought Syndrome of 'the chair is a chair', the rope is a real rope...they just can not grasp -

1. they have created everything around them....
2. they can change everything around them...
3. everything around them is to bring them to a point of wanting to be closer
to Self-realization or God, whatever one calls it...so,
therefore, with insight they can 'see' the why of every situation and flow better...learn from it.

It's hard picking up the pieces of people that refuse to see the rope is more than a rope!
(I am a care giver now of my non-spiritual sister. Oy vey....ha...lol...and I do see the perfection.)


Oy vey indeed ! that made me smile. Yes at least we have some vantage point where we can see this type of behaviour, my father is getting old now, suffering ill health etc. He has wisdom no doubt about it but sometimes you can see the old logic that he used to keep the world together falling apart as he grows older. It can make you a bit angry to see but hey ..its totally forgivable and therefore it merits compassion and patience lol.

Also perhaps I have ideas about what is suppose to happen in old age ? and maybe you have preconceived notions of what way sick people react ? but sounds like your doing a great job though. Best Regards Joe.
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And you won't find that Love comes easy but that Love is always right.So even when the dark clouds gather you will be the light.

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Old 17-04-2019, 08:40 PM
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This rope and snake thing is fun...
It reminds me of how it is to use the mind when looking at those
3D prints, with the hidden giraffes in the jumble of patterns.

We can look at anything...a chair, a tree, a person, a doggie and just with our minds
becoming more 'abstract' or expanded, along with our knowledge of quantum physics now
we can 'turn' anything into what it really is in Reality.

Sure, we can see or imagine the atoms together forming the fur and the
consciousness wagging the tail...
but deeper still to inside the atom.

All of this is unreal...knock on wood...unreal...just atoms glued together to appear as a table.
But, what is holding all these atoms together?
What is this power, this force more powerful than invisible gravity?

This is what we are able to wrap our minds around with this human life..
this human awareness...we have such ability to transcend!
We can play and enjoy ice cream while here...but there is so much MORE.It's wonderful, isn't it?
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones...Meditate unceasingly,
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Old 18-04-2019, 01:41 AM
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This is what we are able to wrap our minds around with this human life..
this human awareness...we have such ability to transcend!
We can play and enjoy ice cream while here...but there is so much MORE.It's wonderful, isn't it?

Or you you could say this.....

* This is what we are able to wrap our minds around with this "ORGANIC TYPE OF SPIRITUAL" life..

*this "SPIRITUAL" awareness...we have such ability to "GROW & DEVELOPE"!

We can play and enjoy ice cream while here...but there is so much more.
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Because, are we not, spiritual Soul beings..ONLY...& connected to an Earthly sensory & processing unit of flesh & blood....the sentient awareness & intelligence originates & lies only within the Spiritual Soul being of which we are.
The flesh only receives & transforms information & delivers the transformed information to us the sentient aware, thinking Soul being, via the silver code interface, when we receive the information & respond to the information, then our response is sent back to the flesh, & of which the flesh utilizes in order to operate the way that we want it to, so that we can interact with the Earthly environment.

& we are standing on a planet made of spiritual matter & the spiritual matter is constructed in such a way, that it can opperate as an organic system.

And this organic system is housed/situated within the spiritual universe along side the Heavens on the same plane/realm...all though the two are many, many, many untold GAZILLIONS of light years apart.

..hi Miss H...as you know, I am only to happy to be all technical, specific, indepth...smiles.
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Old 27-08-2019, 09:25 AM
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A coiled rope's speckled color and coiling are similar to those of a snake, and when the rope is perceived in a dim area, the thought arises, “This is a snake.” As for the rope, at that time when it is seen to be a snake, the collection and parts of the rope are not even in the slightest way a snake. Therefore, that snake is merely set up by conceptuality.

In the same way, when the thought “I” arises in dependence upon mind and body, nothing within mind and body—neither the collection which is a continuum of earlier and later moments, nor the collection of the parts at one time, nor the separate parts, nor the continuum of any of the separate parts—is in even the slightest way the “I.” Also there is not even the slightest something that is a different entity from mind and body that is apprehendable as the “I.” Consequently, the “I” is merely set up by conceptuality in dependence upon mind and body; it is not established by way of its own entity.

Tsongkhapa - Founder of the Gelugpa school of Tibetan Buddhism, quoted by his Holiness the Dalai Lama on a teaching about 'Emptiness and Existence.'
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