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Old 21-06-2019, 09:24 PM
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But it’s funny how every problem we bring up has a pattern hidden within which is it always less to more problems which then always led back to to personals actions and choices they have made in the past, which makes it very hard to combat as to attack and problem you have to attack someone’s past choices and actions which is morally not good or just let them carry on and hope they see you doing something different and follow suit, but that is still no better as they haven’t done any deep thinking yet instead just followed someone or something else.
Yes it can be done via a spiritual awakening by the masses but you still have to deal with emotions overpowering their minds creating false moral standards and disrespectful actions to others and the possibility of no respecting their own “free will” to chose what to do or say, and yes free will is a very subjective term and can fall apart in a instant when questioned but I’ll use it for reference to make it more understandable for those who may not be at such a level as others or myself,
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:41 PM
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But it’s funny how every problem we bring up has a pattern hidden within which is it always less to more problems which then always led back to to personals actions and choices they have made in the past, which makes it very hard to combat as to attack and problem you have to attack someone’s past choices and actions which is morally not good or just let them carry on and hope they see you doing something different and follow suit, but that is still no better as they haven’t done any deep thinking yet instead just followed someone or something else.
Yes it can be done via a spiritual awakening by the masses but you still have to deal with emotions overpowering their minds creating false moral standards and disrespectful actions to others and the possibility of no respecting their own “free will” to chose what to do or say, and yes free will is a very subjective term and can fall apart in a instant when questioned but I’ll use it for reference to make it more understandable for those who may not be at such a level as others or myself,

Blackfox, hello...

Any help is welcome, whether people do it because they follow suit or not, but I agree, ideally people have the necessary knowledge and insight in order to make positive changes. But with most people, and I'll give one example.. they think putting the plastic in the bin is just the ''nice thing'' to do. To make the streets clean. They do not understand the wind and streams will carry the plastic eventually into the oceans, and animals here and there will eat it as well. It is already simply too many steps to take for the average mind, hence we need proper education and good leaders, and the latter is lacking and the former stays mostly within a specific demographic..

I agree with your second paragraph. It is very easy to create false moral standards, even more so on the spiritual path when people assume that, because they can *have* a ''spiritual'' experience they are then justified in whatever it is that they are doing. So if a rapist, murderer or abuser gets a nice ''spiritual experience'' [by his own 'word' of course...] the day after he commits the deed he can say ''See, I gots zze experientz. I'm cool. We are all equally gud *fart* You can't touch me *burp* ''

It seems any clown can weasle himself out of despicable behaviour. Again, we need proper guidance, it seems we are lacking this, and this has gotten worse in this decade especially because of all sorts of crises..

We are all free, but what does it mean when that freedom depends on the lack of freedom of others or an overall decline in living standard due to a degraded ecosystem..? Do we sacrifice all common sense and living standards, including clean air and water, and health of ecosystems just so we can say ''I can pollute and I am free to do as I please''..?

This would only mean we have a serious lack of wisdom..

PS. could you please use points next time? :>


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Old 30-07-2019, 06:00 AM
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Altair - I agree with everything you said. I have recycled for years and years and it was just recently that I learned that most of recycled materials end up in landfills due to the cost of shipping and other logistics on towns and cities across countries. So I have decided to reduce my footprint by buying less food that comes in packaging.

Most governments forgot to really do recycling. They took the easy way out which was to pack the garbage and ship it to China for the cottage industries.

The movie "Plastic China" alerted china to the problem. Now China only accepts garbage that meets Chinese standards.
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Old 30-07-2019, 06:05 AM
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Humans Are Driving One Million Species to Extinction
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...to-extinction/



What we do with this information, how we act, etc gives us a clue about our own spirituality. Do we care only about our own self-discovery or do we extent our self beyond that and care about the living space of our own kind and of so many others..? Do we appreciate the world and it's diversity or do we turn our backs to it and only care about the self?

Choices, choices...


When so many pray for Mother Earth's evolution, do they realize those prayers might have consequences?
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