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Old 18-10-2018, 05:39 AM
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HOW to REACH to the SPIRITUAL WORLD

WE ON SF DISCUSS VARIOUS SUBJECT and hope to reach to the spiritual world by doing so automatically. It is like hoping to become a Harvard professor just by discussion and without any degree and knowledge. For going to the spiritual world we need preparation and fulfill the following requirements.

1. QUALIFICATION ; Besides practicing some standard form of yoga to burn negative karma, one must be a noble and virtuous person like RAMA. Spiritual World is a classy place and village bums are not admitted there.

2. KNOWLEDGE OF THE ROUTE ; Bhagavad Gita describes 8;23-27 Archi route to the spiritual world that requires the knowledge of sun moon and earth's movements and their alignment for reaching to the center of Galaxy and from there to the spiritual world. A diagram and road map is given in the '21st CENTURY BHAGAVAD GITA.

3. ACQUIRING VISA One must regularly pray to the 4Great gods for taking them to the spiritual world and tell family members to utter in ears the mantra given in BG ;7.30 in your ears on the death bed.

This is what one should to for reaching to the spiritual world.














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Old 18-10-2018, 06:01 AM
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WE ON SF DISCUSS VARIOUS SUBJECT and hope to reach to the spiritual world by doing so automatically. It is like hoping to become a Harvard professor just by discussion and without any degree and knowledge. For going to the spiritual world we need preparation and fulfill the following requirements.

1. QUALIFICATION ; Besides practicing some standard form of yoga to burn negative karma, one must be a noble and virtuous person like RAMA. Spiritual World is a classy place and village bums are not admitted there.

2. KNOWLEDGE OF THE ROUTE ; Bhagavad Gita describes 8;23-27 Archi route to the spiritual world that requires the knowledge of sun moon and earth's movements and their alignment for reaching to the center of Galaxy and from there to the spiritual world. A diagram and road map is given in the '21st CENTURY BHAGAVAD GITA.

3. ACQUIRING VISA One must regularly pray to the 4Great gods for taking them to the spiritual world and tell family members to utter in ears the mantra given in BG ;7.30 in your ears on the death bed.

This is what one should do for reaching to the spiritual world.

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Old 18-10-2018, 06:15 AM
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This is what one should do for reaching to the spiritual world.



Thank you for the advice, very informative, I had a feeling I was doing something wrong
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Old 18-10-2018, 07:29 AM
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There is no 'should' to this adventure.

This *might* be one way to reach the 'Spiritual World' but certainly not the only nor the best way.

To use your analogy about the Harvard professor, how did the first Harvard professors get to be professors if there were no previous Harvard professors?? Who acted as the VISA issuing authority before anyone was already vetted to do so? Clearly they had to do it without prior help.

How many of the great spiritual people had QUALIFICATIONs and VISAs? Seems to me that Buddha for instance spent many years wandering around to various traditions trying to gain entrance until he finally gave up, sat down, and figured it out by himself.

Looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the 'Spiritual World' is internal (to yourself).
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Old 18-10-2018, 08:39 AM
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I am flabbergasted, what kind of spiritual world (existence) does one reach with this practice?
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Old 18-10-2018, 09:36 AM
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In my view, to ascend, evolve, any path is fine as long as we endeavour to get to the roots. Choose Bhakti/prayer, meditation or selfless service, as of inclination, it does not matter.

Our choice, zeal, fervour is the key, the Universe does the rest. Automatically.

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Old 18-10-2018, 09:44 AM
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We all go to the spirit world.we all come from spirit and we go back to spirit.


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Old 18-10-2018, 10:21 AM
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1. QUALIFICATION ; Besides practicing some standard form of yoga to burn negative karma, one must be a noble and virtuous
This is wisdom of the highest order and is indeed #1 on the list. Enlightenment is first and foremost a karmic and human-self evolution journey. For every step on the knowledge path, the spiritual seeker must take three steps on the moral self-development path. There are no so shortcuts here. Moral self-development -- understanding the self and soul -- is key to transforming and releasing karma.
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Old 19-10-2018, 08:56 PM
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This is wisdom of the highest order and is indeed #1 on the list. Enlightenment is first and foremost a karmic and human-self evolution journey. For every step on the knowledge path, the spiritual seeker must take three steps on the moral self-development path. There are no so shortcuts here. Moral self-development -- understanding the self and soul -- is key to transforming and releasing karma.
Wise words themselves - which raises an even better point. I don't think the 'goal' is to 'reach the spiritual world' at all - but rather to facilitate the spiritual world reaching the physical world.
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Each condition I welcome transforms me

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Old 20-10-2018, 11:48 AM
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There is no 'should' to this adventure.

This *might* be one way to reach the 'Spiritual World' but certainly not the only nor the best way.

To use your analogy about the Harvard professor, how did the first Harvard professors get to be professors if there were no previous Harvard professors?? Who acted as the VISA issuing authority before anyone was already vetted to do so? Clearly they had to do it without prior help.

How many of the great spiritual people had QUALIFICATIONs and VISAs? Seems to me that Buddha for instance spent many years wandering around to various traditions trying to gain entrance until he finally gave up, sat down, and figured it out by himself.

Looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the 'Spiritual World' is internal (to yourself).

Looking outside can, however, be useful for getting pointers along the way as there is no point in "re-inventing the wheel" (as the expression goes) but, ultimately, I agree with you completely that "looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the Spiritual World is internal (to one's Self)."

Your example with the Buddha is very relevant and insightful for getting this point across.
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