Originally Posted by SaturninePluto
You are talking of ancestor animals correct?
mythological ancestors, which were/are certain animals.
This is all across Siberia, so whether you are Uralic or Altaic the original Animal Ancestor descent grouping or totemic clan division applies. (Perhaps there are exceptions, I just do not know of any).
So if you
are Uralic you
are generally a descendant of either the Bear or the Moose/Elk Ancestor or if you
are Mongol your
Ancestors are mainly either the Red Deer or the Blue Wolf.
In the modern times (apart from traditional Australian Aborigines who still practice this), we may no longer adhere to these old totemic kinship rules, but if or when you do ‘Shamanic Journeying’, which is quite valid Shamanic practice, it is actually amazing to come to realize just how much the past still lives within us and with us.
“We may not live in the past, but the past lives in us”
(Samuel Pisar quote). So, whatever is in your subconscious or your people’s collective subconscious memory, it will come up for you to witness as alive as it was also back then.
Do Native Americans ’Journey’?
In the youtube video I posted earlier, the man expresses how Spirit or Animal Spirits communicate with us.
He puts it quite well and other people might give other kind of descriptions according to their experience, but from my own experience I would say (and anyone, please be welcome to give better descriptions) …….. that when you let go of your thinking and when your awareness shifts into your energy-body or energy-field, something - somewhat akin to what Yoga Nidra teaches, for example:
………… But it is like that ‘Shamanic Journey’ starts from the point where Yoga Nidra ends. (Still it is quite a good idea to do some balancing meditation before journeying).
It doesn’t have to be traditional drumming, other types of music can work just as well, classical music, meditational music etc.
Once you have let go and your awareness has shifted into the energy-field – you communicate with the animals that come - ‘energetically’
- like when you communicate with ‘ghosts’ or when you are in a silent ‘communion’ - nondual communication with a Spiritual Aboriginal Elder.
You know directly within, what the animal is ‘saying’ to you. So the movement is towards Non-Dual awareness in Shamanism as I understand it.
Many do not realize let's put it this way- just why it is so important that if you know your power animal, not to reveal this to any others, even among other Natives.
That might be true to Native Americans, but in Shamanism it is no secret that “The Eagle was the first Shaman”
and that the Eagle sits on the top of the World Pole or the World Mountain or the World Tree (Axis Mundi).
Tengerism (Shamanism) logo:
So when the “Thunder(bird)” sounds and you are awakened –– when you enter into time and timelessness (Axis Mundi) - when you are like within the “Womb of Creation” and have a realization of Non-Dual “Oneness” – that is The Eagle giving you a vision.
And if the Thunderbird initiates/empowers you to become a Shaman and the Holy Spirit (like Holy Ghost) comes upon you – you now have the Spirit Animal – Hiimori - as an extra soul that acts like a Guardian Spirit, Teacher-Guide and Protection for the Shaman.
That is one version of becoming a Shaman.
One does not become a Shaman in the workshops. (But never say never).
In Shamanism, we usually have 3 souls, but some Siberian groups claim 4 even 5.
Thank you SaturninePluto