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02-03-2012, 02:44 AM
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What we really know is not that we exist, cuz that word could mean anything, it is that we are conscious.........which when seen clearly is that we are that which is conscious of being conscious................which when seen clearly is that we are life.................life IS..............and it is conscious.
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02-03-2012, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Xan
I have heard some people say that our existence is an illusion.
To that I say, then we exist as an illusion... it's still an existence.
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Yes... I would say that existence is not an illusion but reality may be. |
02-03-2012, 02:48 AM
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Existence = consciousness.
Xan
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Go within, beloveds. Go deep within to the Heart of your Being.
The Truth is found there and nowhere else.-Sananda
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02-03-2012, 03:00 AM
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Greetings..
Existence is self-evident..
Be well..
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02-03-2012, 03:12 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by TzuJanLi
Greetings..
Existence is self-evident..
Be well..
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So the important question is why does the human, in the condition he is in, consciously, often trying to avoid that which is self-evident.
In the answer lies clarity of what this self-evident existence is.........but it must be seen for oneself.................... |
02-03-2012, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
So the important question is why does the human, in the condition he is in, consciously, often trying to avoid that which is self-evident.
In the answer lies clarity of what this self-evident existence is.........but it must be seen for oneself....................
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I don't understand anything you are saying. Why would I avoid anything the is self-evident? Or more important...why do you believe humans are avoiding what is self-evident? Have you discovered something we have not? |
02-03-2012, 03:24 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Shabby
I don't understand anything you are saying. Why would I avoid anything the is self-evident? Or more important...why do you believe humans are avoiding what is self-evident? Have you discovered something we have not?
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To avoid seeing what is self evident........there is only life............no divine, no awakening to anything other than that there is only life. To see this, to the human who sees only thru conditioning, looks like death to him and so much more.
It is self-evident that life is conscious and that this consciousness aspect of life is evolving.
Humans do things like explain Hitlers actions as perfect or according to some great plan when it simply represents an earlier evolved consciousness.
Even earlier, dinosaurs and such...life being conscious was mostly random but now has evolved to where it is conscious of being conscious so that it can direct it's evolution and it's one and only purpose.............to be.
We can give it conscious purpose that allows it to continue being.
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02-03-2012, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteShaman
To avoid seeing what is self evident........there is only life............no divine, no awakening to anything other than that there is only life. To see this, to the human who sees only thru conditioning, looks like death to him and so much more.
It is self-evident that life is conscious and that this consciousness aspect of life is evolving.
Humans do things like explain Hitlers actions as perfect or according to some great plan when it simply represents an earlier evolved consciousness.
Even earlier, dinosaurs and such...life being conscious was mostly random but now has evolved to where it is conscious of being conscious so that it can direct it's evolution and it's one and only purpose.............to be.
We can give it conscious purpose that allows it to continue being.
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Yep...that is the ego. |
02-03-2012, 03:49 AM
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maybe i'm a figment of your imagination
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02-03-2012, 03:57 AM
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Master
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Location: Portland OR
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Originally Posted by Shabby
We may have a lot of different opinions and beliefs, but maybe there is something we do all have in common: I know I exist....no matter what anyone else says, thinks or believes. I may not know what that is which exists, but that does not change the fact that I know I do.
Do you know you exist?
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No, I am a figment of my imagination
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athribiristan
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