Christianity is an Abrahamic Religion

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Aknaton

Honza, Christianity is a Light, and Light generally attracts moths :-)

That is funny.....

[Morpheus]

The devil is not so threatened and injured by other faiths, as he is by Christianity.
Hence, the assaults and the attacks ensue. Related with "ego".

The Light reveals faults, error, and sin. True?
Exposes guilt.

[liamjoker]

im not sure Abrahamic religion even means much, its a jesus religion. Abraham was a man that was the father of many nations . so what er you saying?

[Honza]

Abrahamic Religions believe in One God - a real God as opposed to a self realised human being. Abraham is really neither here nor there - he is the person after whom these religions were named.

I was trying to say that Christianity - along with Islam and Judaism believe in GOD. Not in self realised people.

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by Honza

Abrahamic Religions believe in One God - a real God as opposed to a self realised human being. Abraham is really neither here nor there - he is the person after whom these religions were named.

I was trying to say that Christianity - along with Islam and Judaism believe in GOD. Not in self realised people.

Any true 'self-realised human' would recognise their source and dependence on God. Those that rely on themselves completely are disconnected. If you met true self-realised person you would recognise their God as the same as yours, I think though that if you don't see God as a person but as a force you're not able to understand God properly. maybe thats the main difference...

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

Abrahamic Religions believe in One God - a real God as opposed to a self realised human being. Abraham is really neither here nor there - he is the person after whom these religions were named.

I was trying to say that Christianity - along with Islam and Judaism believe in GOD. Not in self realised people.

' a real God '

What is a real God? I haven't heard anyone use the word ' real ' before.

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by sky123

' a real God '

What is a real God? I haven't heard anyone use the word ' real ' before.

Sky I think its that some people don't think there is a personal entity at the root of everything, but some force or other that is vague and impersonal, or even non-existent. The Christian idea is there is definitely such a being, but differences exist on that being's nature. But for us God is personal and real in that sense

Originally Posted by Honza

This is a message to all you New Agers, Gnostics, Hindus and 'Alternative Christians' who frequent this section. Christianity is an Abrahamic religion. Most of you who come here are anti religion, anti creator, anti messiah and anti subservience to God.

Why on earth do you bother coming to the Christian section? Why are you drawn here? Do you get a kick out of subverting Christianity?

You claim to be spiritual Christians but in truth you are very far removed from Christianity. I personally think the moderators ought to restrict the content of this section to something more traditionally Christian. Perhaps start a new section for New Age Christianity and Gnosticism.

Abrahamic religions do not teach I AM God. They have a Creator who is far above and beyond any human. They have a Messiah who saves the human race. They are organised into RELIGIONS with laws and doctrines. They are totally different to what most of you are here for....

I was raised as a Christian, but in truth have become further and further removed from it until I now hesitate to call myself a Christian. I would call myself a student of Jesus, but not so much a follower of Christianity. That said, there are many other students and followers of Jesus who do call themselves Christians so it is good to hear what they have to say and give it thought as well.

From what I can tell, Jesus was not a big one on blindly following dogma. He consorted with prostitutes, dined with roman tax collectors, violated the sabbath, disregarded dietary laws, and pretty much told the Scribes and Pharisees they were full of hot gas. As a result he was arrested, tried, and executed by the Inquisitors of his time. I expect that if Jesus were walking the earth today, there are many a Christian who would not give him a warm welcome if he were to sit next to them in a pew on Sunday morning. But then again, there are also many who would. If someone has to stand guard at the temple doors, I would hope it would be the latter.

"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." Matthew 23:13

[davidmartin]

What Ketzer? Not give him a warm welcome! There's Christians that would get security to throw him out. Its so obvious really, the Pharisees are a type of person, they're not Jewish religious leaders of his time, the word is an archetype. And those types tend to end up trying to lead religions, Christianity is the same. I think if you feel a connection with Jesus you are a Christian, I mean I still think Pharisee-type Christians who would not give Jesus a warm welcome are Christians so the bar as I see it is not low, but flexible :)

Originally Posted by davidmartin

What Ketzer? Not give him a warm welcome! There's Christians that would get security to throw him out. Its so obvious really, the Pharisees are a type of person, they're not Jewish religious leaders of his time, the word is an archetype. And those types tend to end up trying to lead religions, Christianity is the same. I think if you feel a connection with Jesus you are a Christian, I mean I still think Pharisee-type Christians who would not give Jesus a warm welcome are Christians so the bar as I see it is not low, but flexible :)

Yes, get that smelly lunatic vagrant out of here, he is spouting all sorts of crazy things and disrupting our service. He must be possessed or just trying to undermine the church. LOL

To be a leader, one must have followers. Unfortunately, to many, the Pharisee types are anything but obvious. Religion can be like a drug for some, altering the mind, making them feel better, and eventually becoming addictive. And like a drug dealer, those who push it are too often the ones who get rich at the expense of those they addict. The desire to know God is a powerful one, ripe for exploitation. Hence the need for the third commandment.

Since I am no longer calling myself a Christian, I find I don't concern myself so much about who is and isn't one. If Christians want to throw Jesus out of church, oh well, I expect he's used to worse by now. I will say it does seem a bit confusing to me, but any copyright to the title of Christian has long since expired and its pretty much in the public domain. I suppose one can define it how they wish. Anyway, as far as I know, Jesus never called himself a Christian either.

Maybe instead of throwing him out they could just escort him down to the basement for a bowl of soup and a piece of bread and then send him on his way. Poor demented soul, probably fried his mind with drugs.