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Old 30-11-2018, 12:05 AM
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I was first impressed with the Aboriginal perception of space when learning about the Dark Emu, which is a shape like an emu in the milky way. It isn't shaped by 'joining the dots', but is a shape within a void surrounded by the glow of thousands of stars.

https://www.bushheritage.org.au/getm...t=213&ext=.jpg
And when the Emu-in-the-Sky moves into a horizontal position - it is time to go and collect them emu eggs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8UGDZ1ApVQ


I trust our Eurasian hunter-gatherer ancestors saw things in a similar way when creating the myth about the World-Tree-in-the-Sky (the Eagle on top and the Snake at the bottom), because the Milky Way at times (especially 6000 years ago) looked like a Christmas Tree lit up.
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Old 09-12-2018, 05:28 PM
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Big Grunt = female { Xx } version \**/ = internalized closed triangle set


Fetus/baby is expelled via contractions of uterus/womb muscle tissue. Brain sends only one kind of signal to muscle tissue and that is to contract.

Birth is resultant of pulling-INward contractions.

All pushing IN or OUT is resultant of pulling-INward phenomean of Universe.

When the brain stops sending the contraction INward signal to the muscle the muscles relax and expand outward.

We believe stars are a resultant of contraction/attraction INward by mass-attractive gravity. A resultant of star formation is EMRadiation outward.

The tree winding-INward >IN< its harvested energy.

Fire is the tree unwinding outward >OUT< as electro-magnetica radiation.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:53 PM
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Scientists worked out the big bang by reversing the expansion of the universe and finding the point where everything started in one place, but that place doesn't exist because the universe expands from every point, so that any observer is equally at the centre - that is, there is no centre per-se - much like there is no centre of the surface of a sphere.



There are many stories about the creation from different cultures, like The Dreamtime creation in Australia, where ancestor spirits made the natural features of the world and sky. It is a cohesive story in which all things are connected, for example, a flowering shrub marks the migration of a fish or the dark emu marks the emu's breeding cycle. Hence, unlike modern science, one can tell the details of ecological systems by looking at the sky or indeed, by looking closely at any one part of the ecology one can know the ecology as a whole.


Everything in the ecology has its place and provides information about the larger ecological system, the ecological system 'tells you', so everything in ecology is knowledge. The value system is centred on knowledge. The people do not value acquisitions, so the Law has no basis in property, and the knowledge is taught within the rituals, rites, songs and stories, and in all the facets of cultural practice - or IOW - everything the people do and everything the wildlife does, has a reason which is known.


When the ecology is disrupted and aspects of it destroyed, that is the destruction of knowledge and the need to know, and so much knowledge was lost that people don't know what to do, or why they do what they do. IOW, they have no reason, they are purposeless, and wander around aimlessly and confused.
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that place doesn't exist because the universe expands from every point, so that any observer is equally at the centre - that is, there is no centre per-se - much like there is no centre of the surface of a sphere.


The surface of the sphere expanding scenario is also used in 5th dimension scenarios.


..."THE DISCOVERY--I created a theory (the Hypergeometrical Universe Theory or HU) where the Universe is a lightspeed expanding hypersphere. This means that we live on the surface (3D Surface) of a lightspeed expanding sphere.".....

I{ r6} like the raisin bread baking in oven scenario where each raisin is likened to a galaxy surrounded by dough { gravitational and dark energy Space }.

Here is fullers 1973 take on this expanding phenomena that is similar to first part Gem's take;

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...00.html#780.20

..."780.23 This expanding-Universe concept is easy to phrase in words as reported, but lucid comprehension of its import involves experientially "impossible," three-dimensional, space-motion conceptionalizing, for in order to travel away cosmically from each of all the spherically surrounding galaxies of our Milky Way, any one of the billions of galaxies seemingly would have to go outwardly in all directions in order to go away from each of them simultaneously.

...Obviously, however, this could not be accomplished by any one of them moving in only one direction__which is humanity's way of thinking of motion-unless there were a center of galaxy of Universe outwardly from which all others move exactly and only radially,

..or unless all of Universe and all of the galaxies and each and all phenomena within them, including the smallest nuclear particle, are either expanding systematically and simultaneously or are shrinking systematically and simultaneously, all changing in size at a rate that is just a bit faster than the speed of light, with either the universal contraction or universal expansion of all points in Universe producing the same effect of uniform withdrawal from one another.

.....780.24 This may be the universal effect of the speed of gravity, whose force (possibly in order to eternally cohere Universe) is, as is often found experimentally, always just a fraction greater than the cosmic speed of inherently disintegrative radiation. (See Sec. 231.)

.....This conceptioning becomes lucid if one is familiar with the vector equilibria and their identity with isotropism, which spontaneously accommodates coexpansion or contraction independent of any Universe center, every nuclear point within the system being a Universe center, with all its 12 most immediate neighbors always being equidistant and bearing at the same total of central-angle magnitudes from one another, 1 with the circumferentially closed, embracing vector forces always more effective than their equal and opposite radial vectors' noncooperative, open-ended, disintegrative forces".....
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Gravitational Space ( + ) >< )-( Dark Energy
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v--
Mind/Intellect 12 ergo 3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold{ 3 + 4 + 5 = 12 }
Biological *8* --bilateral four's---
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrahedron{ self dual }
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Old 11-12-2018, 02:37 AM
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There are many stories about the creation from different cultures, like The Dreamtime creation in Australia, where ancestor spirits made the natural features of the world and sky. It is a cohesive story in which all things are connected, for example, a flowering shrub marks the migration of a fish or the dark emu marks the emu's breeding cycle. Hence, unlike modern science, one can tell the details of ecological systems by looking at the sky or indeed, by looking closely at any one part of the ecology one can know the ecology as a whole.

In Oz you really have to know when to eat bush foods. Birds are not poisonous, but at certain times some birds eat berries that are poisonous to humans - so those are the times when their meat is inedible.


In Northern Hemisphere the best time to cut down pine trees to get quality timber is the time when the X-Mas tree is cut (at a certain moon phase).

This also parallels the myth when the Great Oak Tree was cut.
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The oak sprouts in midsummer in the "Middle World", from where it grows and reaches into the skies and the "Upper Realm" above. In midwinter the oak's branches have spread darkness over the whole world (i.e. Northern Hemisphere). Then when the tree is felled light returns bringing forth the spring.
This Oak myth may have been an old European hunter-gatherer symbol for the Milky Way which can look like a fallen tree.

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I equate the Tibetan Buddhist Mandala with the Word Pole.
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The Tibetan word for mandala is "kyilkor," which means "center and fringe." Therefore we're talking about a circle, a center and circumference, which establishes a complete world. At the center of the mandala is always a central deity. This deity is the buddha principle, i.e., it stands for nothing, the emptiness that pervades the mandala. It says, in effect, nothing is at the center, and this then is the central gateway into the absolute buddha mind.

The word mandala literally means "association," "society." The Tibetan word for mandala is kyilkhor. Kyil means "center," khor means "fringe," "gestalt," "area around." It is a way of looking at situations in terms of relativity: if that exists, this exists; if this exists, that exists. Things exist interdependently, and that interdependent existence of things happens in the fashion of orderly chaos.

World pole:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...10&postcount=3

Our world was seen as a huge tent, supported in the middle with the World Pillar as if by a tent pole.
Movements of the celestial bodies were caused by the sky dome rotating around its axis fixed on North Star.
Some believed that the sky dome was made out of skins stretched up and sewn together and where there were holes in the seams the light of the celestial beyond shone through (forming the stars).
Sometimes Gods would take a peek to see what is happening on Earth, and that is when you would see a shooting star. (Light along the seam).

But practically this was to orient your awareness by the neutral, impersonal, empty (of self) Space-Point-of-View i.e. to indeed see in the sacred manner and the Centre of Space is everywhere.

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