So how does the soul connect to the body?

Originally Posted by hazada guess

I watched that one ages ago,i skimmed through it again briefly but the last speaker waffled too much and bored me to tears.(though he was probably the most interesting).lol

Like the difference between a parapsychology lecture by Peter Venkman vs. Egon Spengler? LOL!

Originally Posted by NoOne

To me, the confusion comes from the assumption that the brain is the seat of consciousness. It isn't. It is just an organ like any of the others. There are in fact people out there with almost zero brain matter who can still function normally and are just as conscious and intelligent as any average person. In fact, I suspect if you could transplant brains, the person who gets the new brain would still be largely the same person as before and would only take on a few minor characteristics of the person whose brain he received. There have been many documented cases of people getting new organs and inheriting some of the characteristics of the donor. This is all due to the Holographic Principle.

I think I agree with that - the whole being (which to me includes an individual in an environmental setting) is consciousness. However, some brain stimuli function and act before even reaching conscious awareness. It's the organ that deals with all sensory input, processing, analysing and classifying the data you take in, stores it in various cortices/lobes, and directs action based on its continuous assessment of what our bodies are doing. The frontal lobe seems to be the overall controller but some of its working still aren't understood, like the concept of idea or creativity.

There are millions of peripheral nerves in the body (aside from eyes, ears, nose etc) telling the brain what's going on and by way of the vagus and spinal nerves the brain telling the body what to do with the most delicate control: muscles, triggering hormone release. The sympathetic and parasympathetic systems are themselves a bit marvellous, the brain "keeping an eye" on autonomous functioning! We can be aware, chat to someone while walking etc., all part of consciousness and the way we interpret our surround.

So...yes!

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

There are millions of peripheral nerves in the body (aside from eyes, ears, nose etc) telling the brain what's going on and by way of the vagus and other nerves the brain telling the body what to do with the most delicate control of muscles or triggering hormone release. The sympathetic and parasympathetic systems are themselves a bit marvellous, the brain "keeping an eye" on autonomous functioning! We can be aware, chat to someone while walking etc., all part of consciousness and the way we interpret our surround.

Oh yeah!

https://www.vipassanaforum.net/meditation/Shamatha.pdf

"The Vagus also provides feedback to the brain from all the internal bodily organs in our abdomen and plays a pivotal role in controlling the stomach and the pancreas. It has strong links to all of the main nerve plexuses (groups of nerves like mini-brains) in the body."

[NoOne]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

I think I agree with that - the whole being (which to me includes an individual in an environmental setting) is consciousness. However, some brain stimuli function and act before even reaching conscious awareness. It's the organ that deals with all sensory input, processing, analysing and classifying the data you take in, stores it in various cortices/lobes, and directs action based on its continuous assessment of what our bodies are doing. The frontal lobe seems to be the overall controller but some of its working still aren't understood, like the concept of idea or creativity.

There are millions of peripheral nerves in the body (aside from eyes, ears, nose etc) telling the brain what's going on and by way of the vagus and spinal nerves the brain telling the body what to do with the most delicate control: muscles, triggering hormone release. The sympathetic and parasympathetic systems are themselves a bit marvellous, the brain "keeping an eye" on autonomous functioning! We can be aware, chat to someone while walking etc., all part of consciousness and the way we interpret our surround.

So...yes!

The body is a biological machine and the brain is its CPU. What is missed by most biologists is where consciousness come into it. They cannot explain how something inanimate and unconscious can come into possession of sentience and intelligence. In fact they tried to find "thought" and thought patterns in the brain, on a microscopic and cellular level, but there's nothing there. In fact it is the soul that animates the machine we know as the body, without a soul it is just dead meat and that goes for the brain as well.

Originally Posted by NoOne

The body is a biological machine and the brain is its CPU. What is missed by most biologists is where consciousness come into it. They cannot explain how something inanimate and unconscious can come into possession of sentience and intelligence. In fact they tried to find "thought" and thought patterns in the brain, on a microscopic and cellular level, but there's nothing there. In fact it is the soul that animates the machine we know as the body, without a soul it is just dead meat and that goes for the brain as well.

Actually they can identify neural pathways and correlates of thought and patterns of thought. They can also identify the neural pathways and correlates of sensory perception. Not in their entirety but at least at a gross level. That's the 'Easy Problem'.

What you're speaking of is the 'Hard Problem' or why we have subjective experience of the above. That's the mystery most neuroscientists, psychologists and AI types relegate to emergence from complexity of the neural circuitry of the brain.

Originally Posted by NoOne

The body is a biological machine and the brain is its CPU. What is missed by most biologists is where consciousness come into it. They cannot explain how something inanimate and unconscious can come into possession of sentience and intelligence. In fact they tried to find "thought" and thought patterns in the brain, on a microscopic and cellular level, but there's nothing there. In fact it is the soul that animates the machine we know as the body, without a soul it is just dead meat and that goes for the brain as well.

I believe the soul is the bedrock, maybe pool, on which our most basic drives rest. A physiological connection if one exists is not yet understood. Perhaps it’s encapsulated somewhere in the chromosomes – I really don’t know. From the beginning (whether you think it’s day 1 or a carry-forward from previous lives doesn’t really matter to me) because as our (life) experiences accumulate we seem to grow fairly selective of what we take in and the way we act – the most public face of which would be seen as our ego which as we all know can adapt to any number of situations, depending on how we’ve assimilated experiences and various cognitive skills as they develop. Something governs this selectivity and I believe that’s the soul.

While I think the process of creativity lies in the brain, the particularities of a creative work (when not under someone else’s artistic control, that is, it’s self-expression) come from selective prompts of the soul that somehow pluck things from that astrally generated energy: inspiration. However, it’s only my belief. Others may have different slants on it.

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[zorkchop]

The individual Soul is a pure individuality . . . having no negative element(s) at all. In the Pure Positive God Worlds . . . life is completely different than what we know in the lower realm. There is no negative “opposite” anywhere.

In order for this lower world classroom to exist and work . . . the negative element is introduced . . . thus giving us the principle of opposites . . . high / low . . . good / bad . . . right / wrong . . . valley / mountain . . . cold / hot . . . male / female . . . etc.

In order for Soul to even exist within these negative elements . . . Soul must be given a protection. This comes in the form of “bodies” . . . or “sheaths” . . . or “coverings” . . . that would protect Soul from the elements . . . much as the human physical body must be protected from the emptiness of outer space by wearing a space suit . . . or layers of clothing when encountering the extreme cold of the Arctic . . . or the hard-hat diving suits when walking the ocean bottom.

Soul takes on the mental body first . . . the various layers of subconscious / conscious / memory . . . then drops lower to take on the emotional / astral body as added protection and thus giving Soul the impressions of emotions . . . and lastly . . . the physical body . . . with its sensory aspects. Soul must then “view” or interact with life and the world(s) around It via these sheaths or coverings . . . and these bodies or coverings filter all we perceive while in these worlds. The physical body gives Soul the means to move and sense the physical world. The emotional body moves us in the way we emotionally feel about what is happening around us . . . and the levels of mind gives us the ability to “think” about it.

Contrary to what many believe . . . Soul Itself is not only able to perceive and think words and sentences . . . but would be even more deeply lost in it all it It could not. Words that Soul Itself uses are just not determined by pre-conceived mental habits and their demanding results.

The silver cord comes into play when Soul leaves one layer temporarily to travel elsewhere . . . as in the dream state. Soul Itself has no need to “sleep” . . . so Soul travels the other worlds during those periods of sleep and this is what the dream state is. The silver cord will keep Soul connected to It’s “other” bodies at this time.

As a few of you have alluded to . . . the brain is NOT the seat of consciousness in the human animal. The brain is a receiver . . . just as a stereo receiver picks up radio stations or television sets pick up their signals . . . and are then “broadcast” to the receiver. The “stations” one tunes in is up to the level of consciousness one is using at the time. This can suggest that there is much more to the concept of “state of consciousness” than might be presumed. One learns to become more and more aware / conscious of LIFE around it. Those choices are individually learned and made . . . and lived.

In any event . . . on we go.

Originally Posted by zorkchop

The silver cord comes into play when Soul leaves one layer temporarily to travel elsewhere . . . as in the dream state. Soul Itself has no need to “sleep” . . . so Soul travels the other worlds during those periods of sleep and this is what the dream state is. The silver cord will keep Soul connected to It’s “other” bodies at this time.

As a few of you have alluded to . . . the brain is NOT the seat of consciousness in the human animal. The brain is a receiver . . . just as a stereo receiver picks up radio stations or television sets pick up their signals . . . and are then “broadcast” to the receiver. The “stations” one tunes in is up to the level of consciousness one is using at the time. This can suggest that there is much more to the concept of “state of consciousness” than might be presumed. One learns to become more and more aware / conscious of LIFE around it. Those choices are individually learned and made . . . and lived.

In any event . . . on we go.

Yes, but those signals can come from a computer connected directly to your cerebral cortex. The computer could then send the signals of either a human body or any body you would like that is compatible with the human brain. The soul would definitely notice something is missing, but will it remain with the brain in the jar or is it dependent on other organs as well to stay with the body?

[zorkchop]

Every personal step . . . every baby step . . . is learned one-at-a-time via personal experience. If Soul has not learned that It (Soul) is independent from these various bodies / sheaths . . . and this independence is learned only after an incredible number of reincarnated lifetimes . . . then Soul will immediately wish to return to the “safe haven” . . . or at least familiar haven of the physical body . . . and start again. Many give no validity to anything other than physical existence. It is all a learning / educational process.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by 1337_d00d

Yes, but those signals can come from a computer connected directly to your cerebral cortex. The computer could then send the signals of either a human body or any body you would like that is compatible with the human brain. The soul would definitely notice something is missing, but will it remain with the brain in the jar or is it dependent on other organs as well to stay with the body?

What happens if a person has a walk-in?