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Old 10-01-2006, 09:22 PM
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Has the concept of what folks (especially those from a Christian background) understand
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:12 AM
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Has the concept of what folks (especially those from a Christian background) understand
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:36 AM
DASA
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Think about it...

How could an All-Loving Supreme Person throw us into Eternal damnation or Eternal Heaven after one rather confusing life on this Earth?

What about People who leave their body at a young age? What about Animals and plants? Where are all these souls coming from? Are we just 'created' from nothing?

Hell is a place on Earth and Heaven is when you take the love of God (Krishna) into your heart.

All you need is LOVE

Hare Krishna !!

Das
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:28 PM
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That is a fascinating article, Space Man. The confusion that ensues from mistranslation ... :shock:

When I hear people talk about a God who condemns people to eternal suffering if they don't feed the narcissism of His son by placing their faith in him; who saves people if they appeal to His vanity, whether or not they have lead good lives; and who set up a system of eternal punishment that could only be transcended by His son suffering on a cross ... then I have to wonder what these people think Satanism could possibly offer. They're basically worshipping The Great Sadist. :?

I know this post could offend some people, and I appologize if it does. I know that many Christians do not see God in this light, and even those who do, believe Him to be a God of Love. But for a non-believer who hears some sermons and reads some texts ... this is the way it translates (in my mind).
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:01 AM
Space_Man
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How about you share your thoughts!
You know, to be honest
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:46 AM
DASA
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Jesus after the Crucifixion

"TO EVERYONE: How do we now reconcile the story of Jesus descending into hell after his death on the cross
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:13 PM
Elen0Sila
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I'm with DASA on the question of Jesus descending to Hell ... never heard of that. :o I should really read the entire New Testament in order to participate more fully in these discussions.

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the whole concept of hell has long muddied his teachings

I can well believe that. Because as long as believers believe that only belief in Christ can save people from eternal suffering, they will feel compelled to lecture, upbraid, and convert (and in the process sometimes kill, torture, and imprison) as many people as possible, instead of letting the beauty that their faith lends to their lives speak for Christ.
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:32 PM
Space_Man
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I'm not really an expert on Christianity, but have never heard that one before?
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I'm with DASA on the question of Jesus descending to Hell ... never heard of that.
The Apostles' Creed reads:
[quote]"I believe in God
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Poppies
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[quote=Space_Man]
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:26 PM
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I wanted to quickly toss this into the mix, as well. This was apparently written by the recently-deceased Pope John Paul the 2nd. Although it still does little to address the nature of hell, it offers some startling information about who ends up going there and why:

[quote]It is not a punishment imposed [lit. inflitto dall'esterno
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