Quantum Physics

On separate occasions I have seen things change their appearance right before my eyes...now either I am hallucinating (not saying I am or I'm not) or it really happened.

Is it possible to change the physical appearance of something based on what Scientist have discovered through Quantum Physics? (Answers in simple English please : )

[John32241]

Yes it is. First you need to understand the nature of this quantum realm of reality. This link may help you with that.
http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_edmonton.html

Not sure if its in simple English for you, but it is the answer you seek.

John

Originally Posted by John32241

Yes it is. First you need to understand the nature of this quantum realm of reality. This link may help you with that.
http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_edmonton.html

Not sure if its in simple English for you, but it is the answer you seek.

John

I will look into the link John Thank you!

Originally Posted by John32241

Yes it is. First you need to understand the nature of this quantum realm of reality. This link may help you with that.
http://www.kryon.com/k_channel11_edmonton.html

Not sure if its in simple English for you, but it is the answer you seek.

John

Thank you so much for this, John!

Originally Posted by forests

Theres is nothing mystical, spiritual, religious or metaphysical about work in quantum physics, dont let new age books fool you. All QM is doing is researching the nature of subatomic particles, these particles still have mass. Quantum physics has nothing to do with the mind.

QM is intrinsically influenced by mind. Your knowledge of QM must be highly selective to have missed Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle - are you not familiar with this? Put very, very simply it's that what can be observed changes depending on the observer.

Shabby - whatever occurred just got my mind thinking - is this what is occurring in shape-shifting? (I'm open to the possibility that this could be true). Perhaps you could give a little more detail for further help?

Originally Posted by amy green

QM is intrinsically influenced by mind. Your knowledge of QM must be highly selective to have missed Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle - are you not familiar with this? Put very, very simply it's that what can be observed changes depending on the observer.

Shabby - whatever occurred just got my mind thinking - is this what is occurring in shape-shifting? (I'm open to the possibility that this could be true). Perhaps you could give a little more detail for further help?

I have no idea Amy, but here an example:
One day (does every story start that way? LOL) I was sitting on my porch when I noticed something moving out of the corner of my eye when I turned my head toward it and looked straight at it I saw the cement was moving...like lava. Not just a little movement and not a tiny area either.

Originally Posted by forests

Sorry but this is a typical new age flawed understanding of QM, however dont worry you are not alone here, and mainstream physicists have pointed out the problem with new age or spiritual interpretation of physics just search online for this. QM is not influenced by the mind. You appear to misunderstand the Uncertainty Principle or you are unaware that it doesn't refer to a conscious observer, that is a typical misunderstanding.

If mind has no influence on the world, explain how double-slit experiments affect the wave/particle nature of light.

CS

Originally Posted by forests

Sorry but this is a typical new age flawed understanding of QM, however dont worry you are not alone here, and mainstream physicists have pointed out the problem with new age or spiritual interpretation of physics just search online for this. QM is not influenced by the mind. You appear to misunderstand the Uncertainty Principle or you are unaware that it doesn't refer to a conscious observer, that is a typical misunderstanding.

It doesn't sound like you understand quantum physics. That's okay, mainstream physicists cover the "Quantum Enigma" on day one of their classes and then are told to ignore it and focus instead on practical applications rather than the philosophical quandary that it presents.

Here's a good book, written by two physicists -- but for any lay reader's comprehension -- and extensively and exhaustively footnoted:

http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Enigma.../dp/0199753814

Quantum particles are absolutely influenced by the mind and the conscious observer. There is no misunderstanding here -- except perhaps that it's the "Observer Effect" rather than the "Uncertainty Principle." But that is a minor quibble.

Originally Posted by forests

SerpentQueen all people do on forums is say to one another "you do not understand quantum physics". Firstly we need to establish who we are talking to here, from what I have seen there is only two physicists on this forum and that does not include you, the majority of folk on this forum are not scientists or even studying natural sciences.

As soon as a scientist turns to metaphysics or spiritual he is no longer a scientist, he is then a philosopher this is what happens with a great deal of books on QM becuase there is alot of interpretation involved, even mainstream scientists have dabbled in some of this,werner heisenberg wrote a book before his death etc . The book you pasted in was not written by a crank, it was written by decent scientist but his book is philosophy its not science, I am not ignorant here I know of that book I was going to buy it a few years ago with the "holographic universe", but notice on amazon how it is related to the god theory and a tonne of other far out spiritual books, its not a science book and shouldnt be read as one. The book has not sold outside of new age circles and has recieved poor reviewes by fellow physicists.

The new age/spiritual folk had no science to back any of their metaphysics but since the 1970s after the realease of tao of the physics, spiritual folk have gone mad with quantum physics thinking it proves their far out claims. The truth is it doesnt. QM is just the study of subatomic particles and has showed some very interesting things about the nature of matter, none of which debunk material science or support metaphysics.

New ages get the observer effect totally wrong, and secondly they completey fail to understand the double slit experiment - that is all their evidence consists of, they have nothing else. You may see the word "entanglement" being dropped now by a few aswell.

The only way to learn about QM is to speak and ask questions to well qualified professors in this area. I recently sent alot of questions to a professor and he admitted to me the spiritual interpretation of QM is deeply flawed, it has no basis in reality. QM fits in with physicalism @ (material science), it has not reavealed anything to do with spirituality, metaphysics or consciousness shaping reality.



a major misunderstanding by wishful spiritual seekers, some of which has already been explained on this thread, now before you say "thats just your opinion" actually type up some evidence of why you seem to think Quantum particles are influenced by the mind. Do you have any?

Again I hear you Forest, but I do not believe (without questioning) a Scientist or Doctor over my experience, simply on the fact that they have not experienced it yet themselves or that there is no scientific proof to back up what I experienced. Science does not have all the answers for everything and things are still being discovered today. You can accept that right?

Originally Posted by forests

SerpentQueen all people do on forums is say to one another "you do not understand quantum physics". Firstly we need to establish who we are talking to here, from what I have seen there is only two physicists on this forum and that does not include you, the majority of folk on this forum are not scientists or even studying natural sciences.

I am married to a scientist (no, not a physicist). We hang out with scientists all the time, including several physicists. I have relatives who are physicists. What they say is that they are told to focus on the practical applications and ignore the philosophical questions that quantum physics raises -- but that does not mean that the philosophical questions aren't real and valid, and don't keep them up at night wondering.

As soon as a scientist turns to metaphysics or spiritual he is no longer a scientist, he is then a philosopher this is what happens with a great deal of books on QM becuase there is alot of interpretation involved, even mainstream scientists have dabbled in some of this,werner heisenberg wrote a book before his death etc . The book you pasted in was not written by a crank, it was written by decent scientist but his book is philosophy its not science, I am not ignorant here I know of that book I was going to buy it a few years ago with the "holographic universe", but notice on amazon how it is related to the god theory and a tonne of other far out spiritual books, its not a science book and shouldnt be read as one. The book has not sold outside of new age circles and has recieved poor reviewes by fellow physicists.

Since you haven't read the book, only the reviews, I will take your opinion on it with a grain of salt.

The new age/spiritual folk had no science to back any of their metaphysics but since the 1970s after the realease of tao of the physics, spiritual folk have gone mad with quantum physics thinking it proves their far out claims. The truth is it doesnt. QM is just the study of subatomic particles and has showed some very interesting things about the nature of matter, none of which debunk material science or support metaphysics.

New ages get the observer effect totally wrong, and secondly they completey fail to understand the double slit experiment - that is all their evidence consists of, they have nothing else. You may see the word "entanglement" being dropped now by a few aswell.

I don't disagree with this.... but it seems you've gone to the other extreme.

The only way to learn about QM is to speak and ask questions to well qualified professors in this area. I recently sent alot of questions to a professor and he admitted to me the spiritual interpretation of QM is deeply flawed, it has no basis in reality. QM fits in with physicalism @ (material science), it has not reavealed anything to do with spirituality, metaphysics or consciousness shaping reality.

Try a different professor. And don't ask him to put it into writing, my goodness! Don't you understand how science and academia work? Take him out for a beer, then ask your "off-the-record" questions.

a major misunderstanding by wishful spiritual seekers, some of which has already been explained on this thread, now before you say "thats just your opinion" actually type up some evidence of why you seem to think Quantum particles are influenced by the mind. Do you have any?

I do have evidence. I've run my own personal experiments, along with my husband's help. We've had some amazing results. I don't talk about it publicly, and you wouldn't believe us anyway.