Could it be?

[AiwaKoveE]

Not a past life but simply cell memory from previous generations

Serious question
This thought came to me and I'm curious to opinions

[Baile]

Hi A... not gonna type the rest of all that lol. As concise as possible: Yes or possibly yes if talking about new age spiritual theories. No if talking about esoteric and occult understanding. It always just comes down to what you personally choose to believe.

[7luminaries]

If you mean cellular memory that is in that state of intactness, it could potentially go back several hundred thousand years at least (per our current physical forms, i.e., modern homo sapien sapien)...or perhaps even further.

If you mean past/other lifetimes as a soul, I've come to see that it's more likely these can be counted on one or two hands for most folks. Perhaps several hands, for some.

But not thousands, like the generations of modern humans.
For those who talk in the thousands of lifetimes...I think it's very possible it is ancestral cellular memories they're recalling, and not necessarily the past lives of their individuated soul.

Buddhists (and shamans in many traditions) can definitely trace the ancestral cellular memories, which can and do go back up to a few hundred thousand years ago and of course are ALL on planet earth. Which makes sense.

The clay of these bodies is carbon based and uses copper as a key cellular component to transfer energy across mitochondrial cellular membranes, in a chemically-based quantum manner. On earth from our origin and to date, silicon alone cannot sustain the energy transfer in most bodies at present. This would involve a laser or light energy transfer in a quantum manner. These Terran or Gaian bodies derive from and are sustained by the clay from this good earth, regardless of the star stuff from whence our DNA is ultimately derived. Therefore each contains potentially a few hundred thousand years' of homo sapien sapien memories. If this makes sense to you. If cellular memories are older, they would also likely be hominid or some other life form native to earth.

But this is not the same as lifetimes of the individuated soul. I think those are extremely private and are much more likely not fully or widely publicised, whether by Buddhists monks or other shamans.

Peace & blessings,
7L

[Baile]

So interesting, thanks. Clay carbon etc. IF you believe this physical earth is the very same incarnation plane you incarnate on each lifetime. And if you believe there are other incarnation planes, well that changes things.

If Trump starts WWIII by tweeting insults at world leaders... I ain't coming back here to what's left. I'm heading elsewhere.

[Really!]

Memory recovery ...
Yes, I believe it's cell memory as you've phrased it ...
Have you ever heard the saying, 'History repeats itself"?
This also applies to families ...
Because not all behaviors/tendencies are learned from immediate family members such as our parents & grandparents ...
It's fascinating!

[mdeking78]

Both....Dr Ian Stevenson did groundbreaking work on cell memory from previous lifetimes (birthmarks and health issues)

[Baile]

Originally Posted by mdeking78

Both....Dr Ian Stevenson did groundbreaking work on cell memory from previous lifetimes (birthmarks and health issues)

Theories are always of interest to me, and I will look him up. But I'll add that as our collective is waking up, we human beings are becoming intellectually clever. And there is a tendency towards what I have come to label spiritual materialism. Every other post in this forum confirms this; most are not discussing spirit, they're sharing and discussing their intellectual-material analysis of things spiritual. Or their religious-material beliefs. They are dissecting spirit through the prism of their material thinking.

People believe figuring out the workings of spirit can be done by applying physical laws and principles that apply to material life. I'm going to suggest otherwise. It's the sun v rock fallacy; believing I can make a rock light and warm the solar system, and pick up the sun in my hand toss it through a glass window.

[Really!]

Originally Posted by mdeking78

Both....Dr Ian Stevenson did groundbreaking work on cell memory from previous lifetimes (birthmarks and health issues)

Back in the 70s, I had a psychology course on memory recovery ...
The given was hereditary health issues including those that skipped generations ...
I don't recall anything about birthmarks, however, my SIL, my son & myself each have the same birthmark on the right side of the left knee ...
My son's is light brown, hers is wine colored & mine is white ...
Is it hereditary even though she is my sister-in-law?
We're of completely different ethnicities w/no lineage what so ever ...
It's a given between her & my son ...

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by Baile

So interesting, thanks. Clay carbon etc. IF you believe this physical earth is the very same incarnation plane you incarnate on each lifetime. And if you believe there are other incarnation planes, well that changes things.

If Trump starts WWIII by tweeting insults at world leaders... I ain't coming back here to what's left. I'm heading elsewhere.

Hahaha...quite understandable....

What I meant is that the incarnation on earth will be of clay stuff for the form, plus spirit stuff for the soul. The clay stuff is (most recently) of this earth and so it's natural that there is historic generational info contained in the physical cells and so forth. Going back potentially to at least when homo sapien sapien memories began...and who knows? Maybe earlier life forms too from the same recycled stuff, if that's possible.

But that's not the same as incarnations of the soul, which could potentially be anywhere and any "when"...and to my knowledge are far fewer in number. Counted on a few hands or similar.

I think the 1000s or millions of "lifetimes" in incarnated physical form that folks mention are mostly comprised of the generational memories.

I have seen Buddhists and others make this distinction, which to me is quite stark, quite different. But I notice they often don't bother to clarify which they are referring to...partly because it's obvious to them, partly because of the ignorance of most in this area, and partly because their private soul history of incarnations is not really for widespread public consumption or judgment.

All of which makes total sense to me, especially the latter.

Peace & blessings
7L

[mdeking78]

Originally Posted by Really!

Back in the 70s, I had a psychology course on memory recovery ...
The given was hereditary health issues including those that skipped generations ...
I don't recall anything about birthmarks, however, my SIL, my son & myself each have the same birthmark on the right side of the left knee ...
My son's is light brown, hers is wine colored & mine is white ...
Is it hereditary even though she is my sister-in-law?
We're of completely different ethnicities w/no lineage what so ever ...
It's a given between her & my son ...

The research shows that birthmarks can be 'scars' or cell memory from a previous life. For insrance a atab wound on the leg will show up as a birthmark in the next life. Interesting thing about your family. One theory is that all 3 of you are part of the same 'soul group'...coming back together lifetime after another....and maybe you all shared something similar in a previous life? Intriguing.