Rev 16

The whole world is watching this start. Few even know about it. Can you see what it teaches?

[Busby]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The whole world is watching this start. Few even know about it. Can you see what it teaches?

Yes, it's clear- angels are not filled with love but can be bringers of destruction. So much for that then.

And of course we once again see just how there are those amongst us who really wish for Armageddon and can't rest until their bloodthirsty desires can be satisfied.

Where's LOVE here?

[jojo50]

Originally Posted by Busby

Yes, it's clear- angels are not filled with love but can be bringers of destruction. So much for that then.And of course we once again see just how there are those amongst us who really wish for Armageddon and can't rest until their bloodthirsty desires can be satisfied. Where's LOVE here?

it's NOT about what any human "wishes for", it's about what really is going to happen. humans has NO say so when it comes to Jehovah God and Jesus plans. we can ONLY pray and make sure we're doing ALL we can to NOT be a part of their wrath ,(Revelation 6:16 And they cried to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb").

[Busby]

Originally Posted by jojo50

it's NOT about what any human "wishes for", it's about what really is going to happen. humans has NO say so when it comes to Jehovah God and Jesus plans. we can ONLY pray and make sure we're doing ALL we can to NOT be a part of their wrath ,(Revelation 6:16 And they cried to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb").

We've had this destruction once before. It was known as the FLOOD. It's already been mentioned somewhere here. This same 'god of love' decided to get rid of all human life (so we are told) and told a gentleman named Noah to build a boat large enough to take two of every creature. It took Noah one hundred years to build his arc and he did this while 'god' watched from 'above' knowingly having condemend about three generations to a watery death, regardless of whether they cared about life or not. Anyway, kangaroos came from Australia, polar bears from the Arctic, penguins from down south and ant eaters from South America - amongst others.
Then 'god' in his love, flooded the earth to the mountain tops (with 8000+ metres of deep water) which stayed for forty days and killed everything off - including all plant life etc., but not (presumably) fresh water fish and other fresh water life. We don't know how the remaining animals were fed as everything was dead nor how they got home again.

And so on.

And us? We as the sons and daughters of Noah and his wife and children (who committed incest to get us started) are about to be torn to pieces again, and apparently in the most horrible manner by our GOD OF LOVE.

I feel my leg being pulled...

[jojo50]

Noah had three sons, they had wives, there were NO daughters. so where was the "incest?" if you know that much about what happen in Noah's time. then you should have knew this. yes!... God is love, though he will PUNISH ANYONE... who refuse to obey him, just like any parent would. and yes... his punishment was to destroy them. who are we as humans, to even THINK!... we got the right to question how, Jehovah God by the way, works?!

and if he wasn't a "God of love", we would have NEVER BEEN HERE, thanks to Adam and Eve. or even have a chance to eternal life, (John 3:16,17), thanks to Jehovah's "LOVE". by sending his PERFECT SON, to die for imperfect, selfish, complaining, immoral, unappreciating, and short of love ourselves HUMANS!

YOU WAKE UP everyday, did you think it was because YOU WANTED TOO? NO, IT WAS BECAUSE HE'S GIVEN YOU another chance to get to KNOW HIM, as Jesus said we should...if we want LIFE! ,(John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent).

and typical imperfect humans as were are, we THINK we can live as we want, even if it goes AGAINST Jehovah. still wanting to believe, we have a first class ticket to Heaven. having the nerves to get upset with Jehovah, just because we brought troubles on our own selves! ,(Pro.19:3 People ruin their lives by their own foolishness and then are angry at the Lord). they died in the flood because they DID NOT heed THE WARNING Noah was relating to them. just like MANY today will NOT LISTEN.

so regardless of one believe Jehovah is a God of love... or not, doesn't even matter, the End will still happen. those who's against him, is with satan. and just as those humans, seen their End right along with the wicked angels offspring's. so will wicked man seen his End, with the offspring's fathers. you have a chance to choose which side you would rather be on. Jehovah God and Jesus, or satan and his demons...it's your world!

[Busby]

Originally Posted by jojo50

. God is love, though he will PUNISH ANYONE... who refuse to obey him, just like any parent would. and yes... his punishment was to destroy them. who are we as humans, to even THINK!... we got the right to question how, Jehovah God by the way, works?!


!

My sons (I'm a widower) are now 51 and 48 years old. They have both, at various times said how happy they were to have such loving parents - and have thanked us at some time for caring - not punishing. Nor do they punish my grandchildren for being themselves.

The biblical god hasn't done anything to help the human race, quite the opposite in fact.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Busby

Yes, it's clear- angels are not filled with love but can be bringers of destruction. So much for that then.

And of course we once again see just how there are those amongst us who really wish for Armageddon and can't rest until their bloodthirsty desires can be satisfied.

Where's LOVE here?

where is the LOVE in assuming that for it to be LOVE it has to meet your expectations for what it should look like?

[mickiel]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The whole world is watching this start. Few even know about it. Can you see what it teaches?

In my view Rev.16 shows a terrible time of humanity and the earth now beginning to experience a great period of incredible pain and suffering increased far beyond what levels we have in history before. Its the plan of God for humanity and the earth being unveiled on earth; the bible calls it " The Vials of the Wrath of God on the earth; there are seven of them."

These are not the beginning of sorrows, those we will have already experienced with what the bible calls " The Seven Seals, and the Seven Trumpets", in Revelations chapters 6 and 8.

These are times of magical suffering, magnified much more than ever before. Its God getting serious about closing the reality of pain and suffering out. He will use it and then it will be no more!

Originally Posted by mickiel

In my view Rev.16 shows a terrible time of humanity and the earth now beginning to experience a great period of incredible pain and suffering increased far beyond what levels we have in history before. Its the plan of God for humanity and the earth being unveiled on earth; the bible calls it " The Vials of the Wrath of God on the earth; there are seven of them."

These are not the beginning of sorrows, those we will have already experienced with what the bible calls " The Seven Seals, and the Seven Trumpets", in Revelations chapters 6 and 8.

These are times of magical suffering, magnified much more than ever before. Its God getting serious about closing the reality of pain and suffering out. He will use it and then it will be no more!

Gods kingdom is the cure all.

[neil]

Originally Posted by kjw47

Gods kingdom is the cure all.

Or you should say, that gods very essence is the cure all...the holy spiritual essence of god.....can be a part of you, if you want it to be.

And as it flows more and more abundantly, into you, you become more and more transformed of soul self...reborn so to speak....

And when you have received sufficient of gods very essence....you will then have been fully transformed into the likeness of god....and you will no longer be, just in the image of god.

And the only way to start the inflowings of gods very essence into you...is for you to know that it is available from god, and you have to truly want it from him....YOU HAVE TO TRULY WANT FOR GOD TO CONVERT YOU FROM A NATURAL MAN OR WOMAN AND INTO A HOLY BEING.

And it can be achieved whilst you are still connected to this non conscious earthly flesh form.

AND SO THEN, THE VERY NEXT TIME THAT YOU HAVE AN OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE, WHILE YOU ARE STILL ENERGETICALY CONNECTED TO THE EARTHLY FLESH FORM, AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN CONVERTED INTO A HOLY BEING, THANKS TO GODS DESIRE TO GRANT YOU YOUR WISH TO BE CONVERTED.

THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU REALIZE THAT YOU CAN ENTER INTO THE FIRST SPHERE/REALM OF THE MANY MANSIONS OF GODS HOLY KINGDOM.

And then as each and everyone of us spiritual beings, who are in the flesh or finished with the flesh, individually is transformed into christed holy beings.
THEN AND ONLY THEN, CAN THERE BE A CURE ALL...GODS KINGDOM IS NOT THE CURE ALL....THE CURE ALL IS GODS, HOLY SPIRITUAL ESSENCE/THE HOLY GHOST/THE HOLY SPIRIT. ...ETC ETC ETC.

.......THE MANY MANSIONS, WITHIN GODS HOLY KINGDOM, WILL BE YOUR NEW & ALL ABUNDANT WONDERLAND, THAT YOU WILL CALL HOME, AND A BONUS FOR YOU, AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN TRANFORMED OF SOUL SELF.
WHERE YOU WILL FIND FELLOWSHIP WITH LIKE MINDED PERSONS.

SO Kjw 47...could you know or believe the above...does that resonate with your thoughts.