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Old 23-08-2014, 08:58 PM
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There are many ways to find yourself or peace within or expressing joy or yeah you know what I’m saying, so one can only give a rough guide to your own personal road. Life input is difficult to deal with as it distracts us though many ways, we have to come to a peaceful existents with what’s around us and also with what’s within us a dual action from the heart. Balance is the key here, learning to be in love with yourself and in love with the world around you and finding a more peaceful mind will come. Feel the energy of the heart growing and becoming one was a key stage for me and this is still growing now. The balance is the centre of us so has a personal message for us, we only have to move with passion towards it as it so much want to be part of us again.
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Old 23-08-2014, 10:42 PM
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joy, love, peace, ...

imagine your day, ... someone cuts you off, someone lets you into traffic, ... it all happens one day or another.

an optimist, a pessimist

can you see that wanting only good in your life is bad for you ?

things happen, what are you going to do about it ?
-be upset that it didn't turn out the way you wanted ?

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there's a constant facination in life, of life.
every moment is a new moment.
every experiences is a new experience.

are you making any desition based on some past memory or experience ?

why are you using the past or future (times you cannot do anything about) to influence the only moment you can actually do anything with ?

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i see many responces about chakras', meditations, and whatever else is thought up.

if you can't see spirituality in every moment of every day, in people you meet, you don't see spirituality.

that's not some high and mighty me on my soap box speech, ... but you have to live every day interacting with the world around you, there is your spiritual self being reflected in everything you think, say, do.

meditations are not 24/7
you cannot focus on balancing your chakra's while making your deadlines your boss sets.
your kids especially don't care if your at peace of mind or not when they want things.

but this is where you are (or are not) in the moment, what are you DOing in the moment with what time you have ?

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can you love yourself unconditionally ?
can you love another unconditionally ?
could you love hitler unconditionally ?

if you are holding reservations because some people are deserving or not, you are holding conditions on who deserves love and who does not. you are holding conditions on acceptable and unacceptable behavior, ... this is not unconditional love

(do not believe the churches about what unconditional love is, to them you have to earn gods love by passing certain conditions)

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joy, can you see the joy in every moment ?
can you let that joy happen & continue ?
is there a right time and place to be joyous, and if it's not right, you or others don't deserve to be having fun ?

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these are conditions we are raised with from a baby by our parents, from our peers as adults.

things we learn and practice and teach to our children.

and we don't even realize we are doing it.

how often do you look at a child who is having fun, running, laughing, even screeming in joy, and (if you are the parent) scold the kid because you're embarassed, or because it's the wrong time (late at night)

these are the things you have to overcome, that there should never be conditions on love. that there should never be a right time & place for joy, ... and all other times & conditions the person (or yourself) does not deserve to be loved and/or joyful.

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to learn, to practice, ...

each day, take inventory of what you did, ... can you forgive yourself your mistakes (they happened, don't let it hold you back from doing better tomorrow).

can you love yourself, can you let yourself have joy, can you accept yourself ?

stop, now look around, because you don't really know, you only know what you think you can do.

so what have you done, have you let others experience more joy & love ?
if so, then you know you are more love & joy then you were yesterday

this is not a fault of yesterday, this is a learning & growing experience

practice your love, feel your love.
helps to ask if there could be a greater love then what you think love is today, (don't listen to what those before you have said what love is or is not), love yourself in the same way you love others, without limits, without conditions on love, just love.

the same is true with joy.

you wish to experience love and joy with the same unlimited limiteless that your spirit knows, ...

practice unlimited love in everyone, regardless who, selfless love, regardless who, practice this upon yourself as well.

learn what love is and learn what love is not.

is love giving someone the same opportunities as everyone else if they use it to hurt ?, ... you can love, but if someone is using it to hurt, is that love, or is it fear, is it enabling another to continue harm ? or does it help them grow

love expands, love helps others to do more and do greater, and you in turn also can feel more, love more, do more

if you find you are doing less, wanting more joy in your life by filling your life with more joyous things, and pushing those things you didn't like out of your life, ... (i mentioned that early for a reason)

question what you think love is, because some things we are told by our parents, by our peers is said with the best of intentions, with the purest, most sincear feelings, ... but it hinders, it holds back, ... we are never doing anything for "i have their best interests in mind", we do these things because we want them to be doing X, without listening to what the other person wants.

but we believe we are doing good, and we tell others we do these things because it is good for them, ... we tell ourselves because somewhere we have to tell ourselves what we want to believe when it's not true.

so question what love is, chances are half of what you have been told about love is wrong

question what joy is, because chances are half of what you have been told about joy is wrong.

question these things as if you don't know and you are asking from the most sincear place in your heart, because you really do want to know what these are

you cannot practice spiritual love & joy, you cannot find spiritual love and joy in your heart if you don't know what it is. ... what these are is beyond words,

for ages we have tried to tell others, to inspire others what love & joy is, ... we use words, and words really suck, they can be misinterpreted.

so what you have been told about love & joy, question it, ask your higher self what love & joy is,

ask your higher self could there be a greater form of love & joy

could you give this to everyone ?
a child ?
your brother & sister ?
your parents ?
your neighbor ?
the person in church ?
the person in jail ?
the person running for some governement office ?
your boss ?
... even hitler ?

if you are finding you can, great
if you are finding you are putting conditions on who deserves love & for what reasons love is and is not deserved, .... ask if there is a greater love than what you think love is, ... you will find it, you will be shown, you will find love if you truly wish to

only if you find what love is and you practice it, and only if you practice it will you know it to be true
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Old 24-08-2014, 12:08 AM
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Hello Everyone,

It has been said that the spirit is pure love and joy.

Can any of you suggest methods or techniques whereby I can acheive love and joy in all aspects of my life? I think this relates to meditation and chakra's?

Thanks!

The journey of individualization turns inward allowing more and more the inward and the outward to become one. It's a process of loving self.
Tuning inward is the best that we can do to become the love and joy that we are.
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