Evolution of trancendence.

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by blossomingtree

Updating for 2018

Iamit - Neo-Advaita & Tony Parsons extraordinaire Ambassador of 2017/18 playing every trick in the Neo-Advaita book??

*Links underlined*

The Fable of Neo-Advaita Tales v "Everyone else"

Round 1: They talk about us because Advaita-Vedanta is jealous of us!

Round 2: It's different because it's a matter of West v East

Round 3: It's only a matter of personality

Round 4: Neo-Advaita suits people who are tired of being told they are not good enough and that they are not enlightened - this way there is instant coffee

Round 5: There is just anger from the tried and tested way - religions are so scared of Neo-Advaita dethroning them!

Round 6 Mega Punch: Neo-Advaita & Parsons teachings is a rebellion against the "totalitarian" regime of Advaita-Vedanta

Round 7: We need to defend ourselves against the mad persecution of Advaita-Vedanta and other dangerous traditionalists!

Round 8: This is a matter of Human Rights Watch on Religious Violence - HELP I AM BEING ATTACKED

Round 9: I don't understand Sri Nisargadatta's context of teachings but I'll now use Advaita-Vedanta to defend Neo-Advaita, sure it makes sense

Round 10: Rinse and repeat

BT

Look forward to the continued creativity, iamit, is this what "Oneness" "peace" and "no practice required" looks like?

Sign me up for it... (not)

BT

Do you realize you also smear Nisargadatta when you smear the direct approach?

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by blossomingtree

Updating for 2018

Iamit - Neo-Advaita & Tony Parsons extraordinaire Ambassador of 2017/18 playing every trick in the Neo-Advaita book??

*Links underlined*

The Fable of Neo-Advaita Tales v "Everyone else"

Round 1: They talk about us because Advaita-Vedanta is jealous of us!

Round 2: It's different because it's a matter of West v East

Round 3: It's only a matter of personality

Round 4: Neo-Advaita suits people who are tired of being told they are not good enough and that they are not enlightened - this way there is instant coffee

Round 5: There is just anger from the tried and tested way - religions are so scared of Neo-Advaita dethroning them!

Round 6 Mega Punch: Neo-Advaita & Parsons teachings is a rebellion against the "totalitarian" regime of Advaita-Vedanta

Round 7: We need to defend ourselves against the mad persecution of Advaita-Vedanta and other dangerous traditionalists!

Round 8: This is a matter of Human Rights Watch on Religious Violence - HELP I AM BEING ATTACKED

Round 9: I don't understand Sri Nisargadatta's context of teachings but I'll now use Advaita-Vedanta to defend Neo-Advaita, sure it makes sense

Round 10: Rinse and repeat

BT

Look forward to the continued creativity, iamit, is this what "Oneness" "peace" and "no practice required" looks like?

Sign me up for it... (not)

BT

Do you realize that you also smear Nisargadatta when you smear the direct approach?

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Iamit

I don't know because I didn't dwell on that aspect as I'm not into it.

Is there a detailed word index on line that I can use to find the quite long passage with the depressed guy when N gave a long example of the direct approach?

Probably go to my thread on Nisargadatta in this forum section and access the PDF 'I Am That' from there. It goes into detail.

PS. May I suggest ceasing the inane bickering. It makes the thread an unpleasant place to be.

[naturesflow]

Originally Posted by Iamit

Ok thanks for sharing. Understood. Sounds like things are going well in the terms you describe.

Yes anything can happen. I can speak about my experience in the past or present. How I feel about connection in the future does not concern me because the future is never here:) I could imagine it but don't bother as it may be nothing like I imagine:)

You don't have to mention the word "judgement" in order to judge what may be right for another. "In the end you are really just seeking yourself- Iamit" You have no idea about that because you do not share my experience. But anyway never mind. Be well and good luck.

There is an awareness of what the potentials of the future may hold, without the imagination getting in the way. I don't have to imagine what the past and present already shows as potential of what has been is and can be.

Obviously, in your assessment of the future, your more attuned to believing it is about imagining details, where as potentials only require a conscious awareness and observation of how life moves and can be as a seed of itself as open source of potential.

Of course I could be wrong in my assessment of you by saying this.

Perhaps you don't observe the movements of yourself and life as close as others might do?

As for my posting of the quote, it opened you up to show how you might perceive me posting that, which is good, because often what comes through at the subtle level of your relating at times tends to make me curious ..

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by Gem

Probably go to my thread on Nisargadatta in this forum section and access the PDF 'I Am That' from there. It goes into detail.

PS. May I suggest ceasing the inane bickering. It makes the thread an unpleasant place to be.

Ok I'll check it out. Thanks.

"PS. May I suggest ceasing the inane bickering. It makes the thread an unpleasant place to be"

Agreed if only B could cease responding to my posts with smears which need to be challenged. We know what happens if totaltarians are not challenged when denying individual choice. You may have noticed that it is it not I who initiate contact with B. It would be better if the moderators would deal with it but alas it doesn't happen.

[blossomingtree]

Originally Posted by Iamit

Ok I'll check it out. Thanks.

"PS. May I suggest ceasing the inane bickering. It makes the thread an unpleasant place to be"

Agreed if only B could cease responding to my posts with smears which need to be challenged. We know what happens if totaltarians are not challenged when denying individual choice. You may have noticed that it is it not I who initiate contact with B. It would be better if the moderators would deal with it but alas it doesn't happen.

More evidence of "no path or practice required Tony Parsons spiritual strength"

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post 1663931

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post 1683268

BT

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by naturesflow

There is an awareness of what the potentials of the future may hold, without the imagination getting in the way. I don't have to imagine what the past and present already shows as potential of what has been is and can be.

Obviously, in your assessment of the future, your more attuned to believing it is about imagining details, where as potentials only require a conscious awareness and observation of how life moves and can be as a seed of itself as open source of potential.

Of course I could be wrong in my assessment of you by saying this.

Perhaps you don't observe the movements of yourself and life as close as others might do?

As for my posting of the quote, it opened you up to show how you might perceive me posting that, which is good, because often what comes through at the subtle level of your relating at times tends to make me curious ..

Yes of course there can be awareness of what the future may potentially hold. For me that occurs in my imagination. It does occur sometimes but I dont give much attention to it because the feeling arises that it might not happen.It is obviously not a reflection on what is or has happened which I do focus on. I like and study history for what it can reveal about what is happening now. What arises now can be seen to have arisen before and the consequenses observed.

Even with that information there is potentially so much hidden in terms of what is happening and why. (see S kierkegaarde's parable of the Highwayman). There is the idea of an infinate balancing system that operates automatically withot which there would be no duality.

Please say what has made you curious and maybe we can discuss it.

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by blossomingtree

More evidence of "no path or practice required Tony Parsons spiritual strength"

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post 1663931

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...#post 1683268

BT

Yes these continuing posts are unpleasant but may all please notice that it is not I who initiates contact with this person.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Iamit

Ok I'll check it out. Thanks.

"PS. May I suggest ceasing the inane bickering. It makes the thread an unpleasant place to be"

Agreed if only B could cease responding to my posts with smears which need to be challenged. We know what happens if totaltarians are not challenged when denying individual choice. You may have noticed that it is it not I who initiate contact with B. It would be better if the moderators would deal with it but alas it doesn't happen.

Ok, I am pretty fond of that little book and it found it to be a pretty rich piece of work.

Sure, it's ok to say as you please, Iamit - and the vast majority of us appreciate it.

I actually deny individual choice in principle, for this very moment is inevitable and hence choiceless, but it is only proper to allow people to be as they are, think as they think, express themselves as they will - and could only hope to broaden possibilities, deepen and enrich perspectives, and live with the undying wish that this life of mine will result in betterment in the world, at least in some small way.

[Iamit]

Originally Posted by Gem

Ok, I am pretty fond of that little book and it found it to be a pretty rich piece of work.

Sure, it's ok to say as you please, Iamit - and the vast majority of us appreciate it.

I actually deny individual choice in principle, for this very moment is inevitable and hence choiceless, but it is only proper to allow people to be as they are, think as they think, express themselves as they will - and could only hope to broaden possibilities, deepen and enrich perspectives, and live with the undying wish that this life of mine will result in betterment in the world, at least in some small way.

Yes from a non dual perspective there is no-one choosing including the utterance that the right to choose be respected. That each statement plays a part in maintaining an infinite balance may be the mechanism operating even if that balance is not apparent "locally":)