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Originally Posted by Tobi
You seem to dislike 'meat-avoiders' nummi....
I used to like meat very much. I used to eat it raw. I liked the salty bloody taste of it. After a while I ate it cooked. But I still liked bacon very much! I first stopped eating meat because it wouldn't keep without a really cool storage space (I lived in a barn on a mountain)
Much much later I stopped eating meat altogether because I didn't like the way animals were treated in the 'meat industry'. And because if I couldn't eat my dog, how could I eat a sheep or a pig? That was my only reason. Not any 'holier-than-thou' reason.
And with careful management, I am no less fit now in my sixties, relatively-speaking than I was when I ate meat in my twenties (taken into account that I am getting older of course! Can't run as long and as far as I used to, but I think that's more to do with being over 60 than it is to do with not eating meat.)
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What I dislike is that almost all meat-avoiders I've encounter lie. They say something untrue to be true, and they say that untruth applies to all, when it is so obvious it does not apply to all. If they kept what they say within the bounds where it applies, then there would be no wrongs to bring out. They force their beliefs onto those on whom those beliefs do not apply. They are lying and being disrespectful to others and themselves.
So in response to that I am firm in pointing out what is not true, and how much of it approximately is true.
Meat stays good and edible for long periods, 1-3 months at least.
That the meat, when in moist conditions, can get slimy and smell, is no problem. You scrape the slime off and the meat is edible and still tastes good.
There are people who specifically put meat into jars and let it sit for weeks or months before eating it. Because certain bacteria "predigest" it and create many beneficial substances, and feed gut bacteria when that meat is eaten by people. It is a form of fermentation, except not with plants, but with meats. The same is done with fish, though fish don't keep as long.
If meat is left outside, to hang or other ways where air can get around it, it will dry on the surface. It might get moldy. But it is still good and edible, and this way the taste becomes quite wonderful.
What I have noticed is that when the meat is fresh, then after about a week it becomes "unpalatable" in the sense that instinctively don't want to eat it, but then after another week something changes and it becomes
very palatable.
And then there's dry-aging the meat. It can last for years like this in the right conditions without going "bad".
That animals are treated bad in the meat industry does not mean animals are treated bad absolutely everywhere. There are farms and places where animals are treated well, very well. You don't need to eat "meat-industry" meat just because such abomination exists. Find farmers and places that respect and keep animals well, and eat that meat.
I don't eat meat-industry meat either, because it's toxic garbage. And I never would eat that garbage. But that doesn't mean I have to stop eating meat, especially if there are farmers who respect and make sure their animals live a good life.
You could eat your dog if you wanted to. That's your decision, not someone else's. The "authority" might regard eating a dog as wrong, but do they decide how you live your life? Do you allow others to decide how you live your life and how you may think or not? Some people also keep pigs and sheep as pets, and other people eat the same animals.
Just because someone has an animal as a pet does not mean that animal may not be eaten. Depends why you are keeping the animal around yourself. You don't need to eat every animal you encounter...
Not being able to run as long and as far has extremely little to do with the number of years lived. It has almost everything to do with health and under which conditions the body has developed over the years lived. The more I encounter the "aging" issue, the more I realize that "age" is the bodily breaking and failure to keep going with strong health due to less than optimal conditions. Conditions like toxins and poisons, mineral-vitamin-nutrient deficiencies, bad-wrong thinking and emotions, etc.
How long one has lived and "age" are essentially two completely different things that have nearly no relation between each other. After all, there are people who have lived well over 100 years, and maintained good and strong health in all regards throughout their lives.
Health getting worse the longer you live, the conventional understanding of "aging", is a symptom of poor living conditions and poor diet and thinking. It is an illness.
Health should be strong and well no matter how long you've lived.
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