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Old 22-03-2017, 10:36 AM
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In respect of Chakras and colours... The research that we undertook defined that the main 7 chakras do not, actually have 7 fixed colours - because they constantly change colour depending upon which particular subtle energy channel within them is dominant at any one time. Therefore the throat chakra, traditionally depicted as blue - can actually be orange or purple as much as it can be blue. Two people standing next to each other with a genuine clairvoyant viewing them both with subtle vision would see both sets of 7 chakras to be of different colours - because the two people will have two totally different conditions of health in their body. Chakras only deal with health..
It's too easy for people to look in a book and see pictures that the writer has ascribed to a chakra (at that single time, if they indeed could actually see the chakra at all and were not taking their notes from another, earlier writer) or look at a poster or take it for granted what someone tells them to be true. How would they know what they were being told was correct?
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Old 22-03-2017, 10:55 AM
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In respect of Chakras and colours... The research that we undertook defined that the main 7 chakras do not, actually have 7 fixed colours - because they constantly change colour depending upon which particular subtle energy channel within them is dominant at any one time. Therefore the throat chakra, traditionally depicted as blue - can actually be orange or purple as much as it can be blue. Two people standing next to each other with a genuine clairvoyant viewing them both with subtle vision would see both sets of 7 chakras to be of different colours - because the two people will have two totally different conditions of health in their body. Chakras only deal with health..
It's too easy for people to look in a book and see pictures that the writer has ascribed to a chakra (at that single time, if they indeed could actually see the chakra at all and were not taking their notes from another, earlier writer) or look at a poster or take it for granted what someone tells them to be true. How would they know what they were being told was correct?

How would you?

Regards Billy.

PS..What is a genuine clairvoyant please,and what research did you do,under what conditions.
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Old 22-03-2017, 11:22 AM
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Demons and dark entities... Seriously..

Although such creatures (in a manner of speaking) do exist - they are of such a primitive evolution that they ordinarily do not make contact with the human chain of evolution. I have been a practicing occultist for over 25 years and I have never encountered these creatures; & I have experienced many circumstances.
I am inclined to blame media and the oft poorly researched horror movie industry. The most likely actual reality earlier discussed will IMHO, 99.99% be nothing whatsoever to do with actual demons and their dark entity cousins. It is far more likely to be a (relatively common) case of elemental development and parasitic attachment of primitive codependent astral creatures.
The latter are part and parcel of the Nature of Life. Like going for a walk in long grass and picking up a tick - or wading through a swamp and getting a leech attached to your skin... Nothing evil about it - it's just Nature.
Whenever a human being holds to a lower emotion such as the variables of fear, sadness, melancholia, despair, jealousy etc - they exhibit a subtle vibration of that frequency. All around them, wherever they are - are a myriad of different subtle beings of lesser evolution and some of these are attracted (because of their nature) to the human being in question. Like a gathering of moths around a lamp in the dark. It is very rarely of any consequence for the human being.
The single most effective method to rid oneself of the attention of such creatures is to simply create and hold and flood around oneself - a higher vibration. Think LIGHT, love, altruistic unconditional joy, serenity, generosity, empathy, happiness. Think and HOLD these feelings for as long as possible in an expanding bubble around you. This will (in a manner of speaking) shine a beacon of light around you and no creature of a primitive or low order of evolution will bear to be anywhere near you. The higher the emotional feeling the brighter the light, the longer the sustained action - the longer the duration of the new 'field' around you. This exercise never fails its goal. It's like a brightly burning campfire keeping wild animals away.
As to the cause of the condition in the first place- it is usually self-inflicted (generally unrealised) and created by the person in question through habitual repetition of negative thoughts, feelings and emotions, often coupled (in this day and age) with drugs and or alcohol which serve little else but to perpetuate the same negative feelings and mood. Add to this an interest in "spiritual matters" and the character is then frequently drawn into the company of people with matching vibrations who more often than not compound the problem with suggestion through ignorant and insufficient esoteric research.
However, its easy to 'say' create and hold + feelings - but when one is in the trough of a deep depression - that is less easy to accomplish - because the consciousness becomes accustomed to these lower vibrations and it takes serious effort to stand up and do it when 'you' really don't 'want' to.
Fundamentally - although aid and help from others around performing the same exercise will temporarily work and remove / detach the lower creatures - unless the person themselves really 'gets a grip' and begins to generate these higher vibrations within their own being - any benefit from others doing it for them will be short lived for the consciousness slips back to its earlier ill habits and the sequence of events repeats itself.

No offence intended - just saying it as it is IMHO.
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Old 22-03-2017, 11:50 AM
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How would you?

Regards Billy.

PS..What is a genuine clairvoyant please,and what research did you do,under what conditions.

This could take a long time

In a nutshell, I have met and talked with, had discussion with many, many people that have clairvoyant abilities but when I met the most profound one, I married her! I have subtle vision myself but not as yet to the degree that my wife has.
To put things in perspective, we researched a thesis on energetic healing based entirely on her subtle insight. Chakras - everyone here has heard of them but few (IMHO) really understand what they are. When studying the workings of the subtle anatomy of Man, Nat (my nearest & dearest) looked at chakras, then she observed energy channels travelling through them and entering the main organs of the body. Inside these channels were sub-channels which then connected to systems within the organs, within these she observed 'micro channels, within these she examined threads, within the threads she found micro threads attending each and every cell. Each cell was recieving both vitality and an information command. Going the other way, Nat looked to follow the original channels of the chakras to see where they originated, on examining these she found they were at a certain higher subtle level, closely connected with another system in the same place as the chakras but different.
Picture a drawing of the body on a table, place a coin on the traditional positions of the 7 main chakras; these deal with the health and vitality of the body. now place another 7 coins on top of the first 7 coins. two systems of 7 energy centres in the same location - one deals with energies by their strength of vibration, the other deals with energies by their frequency of vibration. Tradition ascribes the faculty of clairaudience to the throat chakra - but our research showed it wasn't the 'chakra' but the other energy centre at the same place. So one can understand how people have always believed this was the root of the faculty.. We gave much of these new discoveries names and she drew some 30+ diagrams of these "new" systems. The work eventually had 216 diagrams when we published it. I won't give the name of the book here as that would be self-advertising.
Much of the work we did was repeating many different empirical experiments and recording details, what, where, colour, speed, how, why.

As if perhaps to add credibility to her work, when we had published it all and finished with that subject, we found a picture drawn for another highly respected clairvoyant of the last century by the name of Geoffrey Hodson. It was his 'Kundalini Deva'. In it are the seven energy centres and the double helix energy channel travelling up, around and back down the centres - as Nat had drawn for the human system. The channel of energy is Kundalini - although at the time we gave it a different name with our research.
Our work included 61 pages about the subject of thoughtforms alone; they are key to the existence of our being.

End of the nutshell
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Old 22-03-2017, 12:02 PM
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Let's assume we have Jesus Christ and Krishna in front of us,we can see their perfectly formed chakra's,perfect colour and musically perfect and in tune with the universe.
There is a man nearby,he welcomes them to his town,he is the Mayor and at the welcome meal for these two great entities in human form he is also the toastmaster, the most brilliant of raconteurs.
But there is a problem,he secretly has a very seedy side life,he publishes and sells porn.
When he is talking that night the two revered guests notice a beautiful blue throat chakra,its vibrating perfectly but has a red tinge and sounds out of key?

Jesus tells the man that he can read his thoughts and see his dark side,the porn business, the Mayor is embarrassed and promises to stop immediately, as soon as he makes that affirmation to Christ the red tinge vanishes and a beautiful blue colour returns,it is vibrating perfectly to the correct harmonic!

Kind Regards Billy.
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Old 22-03-2017, 12:31 PM
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Yes,I am aware of Hodson and Ethylwynne Quail,as are most folk my age(64)
I am also aware of maybe 25 plus gifted pshycics,I mean there were literally hundred in England,America and Europe,they were a dime a dozen.
One who really stood out in America was of course Edgar Cayce,I mean you just couldent fake what he did,then HP Blavatsky,CW Leadbeater,Annie Besant and of course Alice A Bailey.in the late 60's I started my learning curve,I have read and still read a book a week,"I despise Google" which is used on websites like this to give answers to questions they neither understand or comprehend.

Colours and harmonics of chakra's are based on a perfect specimen, and you need a base line,in my prior post I gave a valid example,I am not talking about damaged chakra's, I am talking the perfect entity in human forms chakra.

Chakra's are overated,we still can live a full and honest and decent life without any knowledge of esoteric things,why folk dwell on them or want to open them I haven't the slightest idea, people who are just your "average garden variety" type of person should leave the brow chakra alone,its very dangerous to play around with that one,as for shushumna and ida and pingala nadis well they should be left alone too!
And,this really is experience talking,not " book learning ",and as for demons and such attacking people,well I've watched elementals try and attack my silver cord now what do yo think of that,I mentally told them to f... off and they just vanish into the ether.

Kind Regards Billy,
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Old 22-03-2017, 12:56 PM
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Let's assume we have Jesus Christ and Krishna in front of us,we can see their perfectly formed chakra's,perfect colour and musically perfect and in tune with the universe.
There is a man nearby,he welcomes them to his town,he is the Mayor and at the welcome meal for these two great entities in human form he is also the toastmaster, the most brilliant of raconteurs.
But there is a problem,he secretly has a very seedy side life,he publishes and sells porn.
When he is talking that night the two revered guests notice a beautiful blue throat chakra,its vibrating perfectly but has a red tinge and sounds out of key?

Jesus tells the man that he can read his thoughts and see his dark side,the porn business, the Mayor is embarrassed and promises to stop immediately, as soon as he makes that affirmation to Christ the red tinge vanishes and a beautiful blue colour returns,it is vibrating perfectly to the correct harmonic!

Kind Regards Billy.

I like the narrative The point I was making was that through our research, the throat chakra (for example) has several potential colours - because each of the subtle energies passing through it have defined colours - and where one might have perfect vocal cords, voice box, one might have some slight decay in the lower jaw of a tooth - (poignant for me as I'm going to the dentist this afternoon for precisely this reason) and thus currently my throat chakra will be coloured differently to someone else's that has no such current dental issues.. Therefore by the pure principle of health - every human body on this earth has different realities & therefore they cannot all have the standard presumed chakra single colour set up. Our own investigation led us to understand why. What others choose to believe without question is their own choice. We didn't set out to upturn the apple cart of traditional beliefs and we certainly weren't looking to contradict the 'colours thing'; when we found out about it, we were pretty surprised ourselves
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Old 22-03-2017, 12:59 PM
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Yes,I am aware of Hodson and Ethylwynne Quail,as are most folk my age(64)

Colours and harmonics of chakra's are based on a perfect specimen, and you need a base line,in my prior post I gave a valid example,I am not talking about damaged chakra's, I am talking the perfect entity in human forms chakra.
Kind Regards Billy,

- I think that's where we meet up - My points were about the reality of Man as is - (thus in a sense - all if not most will be damaged ) and you're referring to the 'Perfect Man'. We'll all get there one day!
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Old 22-03-2017, 01:15 PM
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...well I've watched elementals try and attack my silver cord now what do yo think of that,I mentally told them to f... off and they just vanish into the ether.
Kind Regards Billy,

Sorry for chopping up your quotes - I haven't yet figured how to multi quote here

You've said it yourself 'elementals' - not demons as such. You'll appreciate there are nomenclature and jargon problems rife throughout the esoteric stage, some refer to elementals as purely and only the representatives of the 4 elements - whereas others use them as terms for lower astral creatures - and then folks like I use the term to describe home grown parasites.. It all adds to the mix.
I find that the most common reference for "demons" as such comes about where a black magician builds a malific elemental of his own essence and then commands it to do his ill will. By principle it isn't a demon at all - but is percieved as such by those that might see it.

When you tell them to 'go away'... it is the force of your will in a direct thoughtform that deters them as they immediately sense the infinite difference of power.

ref: Hodson, I have recently been in touch with a woman who's mother knew him well and there seems to be more and more literature being released about some of his work which never got public attention during his life.. Cayce was in a league all of his own - but as for all others I prefer Hodson's work myself.

Regards
Tony
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Geez Tony I got lost in your posts,I can't do that cut and paste stuff,I am using a little 7" tablet and am pretty useless when things get technical.

I used the word elemental in the astral sense,not the fairy elves sense,they are the only elementals I know,straight from the lower realms,but 3 or 4 were trying to grab my silver cord,funny things they were,looked about the diameter of about two inches,just a body with arms,no legs and pointy noses that seemed to start high on the forehead straight to flared nostrils and pointy shark teeth,weird stuff, but I knew it was my fear that created them,they had gremlin features,I told them mentally to " f...off and they vanished instantly.

Regards Billy.
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