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Old 11-03-2017, 03:35 AM
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Can someone remove another person's karma?

Is it ever possible or warranted for a high level practitioner or Teacher to remove another persons karma or to go through it for/with them?
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Old 11-03-2017, 03:46 AM
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Is it ever possible or warranted for a high level practitioner or Teacher to remove another persons karma or to go through it for/with them?

Why do you ask, django?

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Old 11-03-2017, 04:43 AM
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Why do you ask, django?

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I'd only really like to say I ask for personal resaons, and I wonder what the Buddhist position would be
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:01 PM
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I'd only really like to say I ask for personal resaons, and I wonder what the Buddhist position would be

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In the Buddha's definition, karma is intention.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...thi/kamma.html

Having sowed, one reaps through body, mind and soul.

Can a Master remove another's karma? At the end of the day, all souls on this planet influence each other's karma.

The practice of Buddhist practice is about liberation, freedom from small mind.

In that way, one can oneself remove/adjust one's own kammic patterns, and this can certainly be assisted through various channels including Masters.

The other key thing to remember is karma is borne of Mind - even people with nice objects and material things are not necessarily of peaceful mind and heart. Therefore, the Buddhist teachings focus on Mind/Heart in all cases, and kamma is then seen for what it is - a life of joy and opportunity for those willing.

This is the context in which kamma is relevant to a Buddhist practitioner.


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Old 11-03-2017, 11:04 PM
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django,

In the Buddha's definition, karma is intention.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...thi/kamma.html

Having sowed, one reaps through body, mind and soul.

Can a Master remove another's karma? At the end of the day, all souls on this planet influence each other's karma.

The practice of Buddhist practice is about liberation, freedom from small mind.

In that way, one can oneself remove/adjust one's own kammic patterns, and this can certainly be assisted through various channels including Masters.

The other key thing to remember is karma is borne of Mind - even people with nice objects and material things are not necessarily of peaceful mind and heart. Therefore, the Buddhist teachings focus on Mind/Heart in all cases, and kamma is then seen for what it is - a life of joy and opportunity for those willing.

This is the context in which kamma is relevant to a Buddhist practitioner.


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Hi,

The explanation below is the second or third steps but your dharma is just the first step: to think or intention.

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Karma (Sanskrit, also karman, Pāli: kamma) is a Sanskrit term that literally means "action" or "doing". In the Buddhist tradition, karma refers to action driven by intention (cetanā) which leads to future consequences.

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Karma and karmaphala are fundamental concepts in Buddhism.[12][13] The concepts of karma and karmaphala explain how our intentional actions keep us tied to rebirth in samsara, whereas the Buddhist path, as exemplified in the Noble Eightfold Path, shows us the way out of samsara.[14]

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Rebirth,[note 2], is a common belief in all Buddhist traditions. It says that birth and death in the six realms occur in successive cycles driven by ignorance (avidyā), desire (trsnā), and hatred (dvesa). The cycle of rebirth is called samsarā. It is a beginningless and ever-ongoing process.[15] Liberation from samsarā can be attained by following the Buddhist Path. This path leads to vidyā, and the stilling of trsnā and dvesa. Hereby the ongoing process of rebirth is stopped.

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The cycle of rebirth is determined by karma,[15] literally "action".[note 3] In the Buddhist tradition, karma refers to actions driven by intention (cetanā),[21][22][6][quote 1] a deed done deliberately through body, speech or mind, which leads to future consequences.[25] The Nibbedhika Sutta, Anguttara Nikaya 6.63:
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Old 11-03-2017, 04:00 AM
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Is it ever possible or warranted for a high level practitioner or Teacher to remove another persons karma or to go through it for/with them?

They'll surely tell you, they can . But can you see it or feel it , if you can't then how can you know it has been removed. Or just to comfort oneself or cheating.

My opinion is no human can or God also can't otherwise evil doers can do bad things and reduce it again and again. So what's karma for? Like an empty talk!

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Old 11-03-2017, 04:46 AM
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They'll surely tell you, they can . But can you see it or feel it , if you can't then how can you know it has been removed. Or just to comfort oneself or cheating.

My opinion is no human can or God also can otherwise evil doers can do bad things and reduce it again and again. So what's karma for? Like an empty talk!

I agree Jeremy, it seems like it shouldn't be possible, it doesn't add up in one way, but I still wonder what the actual Buddhist attitude would be, there might be unusual circumstances in which it is permissible and doesn't violate a 'natural' law of karma?
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:32 AM
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Is it ever possible or warranted for a high level practitioner or Teacher to remove another persons karma or to go through it for/with them?
If there is belief in karma then there is karma.
If one who does not believe in karma causes another one to drop his/her belief in karma then the former has removed the latter's karma.

However removing another one's karma should not be confused with removing another's conditionings (psycho-mental habits) that he/she has acquired in his/her life starting with birth because although it is possible to remove another one's karma through removing his/her belief in karma it is not possible to remove another one's conditionings deliberately.
But under special conditions it is also possible to remove conditionings. It is just impossible to deliberately remove conditionings. And even if conditionings are removed by chance they are usually merely removed temporarily. But even if only removed temporarily this makes a great difference because then it is known that conditionings can be removed and how it is when they are removed.
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Old 11-03-2017, 07:30 AM
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Is it ever possible or warranted for a high level practitioner or Teacher to remove another persons karma or to go through it for/with them?

No one can remove anothers karma, its' our own responsibility.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:11 AM
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No. Your karma is your karma alone. It has to be faced if not in this lifetime then it must be faced in another.
By your question I assume that you're referring to bad karma, if I'm correct in my assumption then all you can really do is try to accumulate some good karma by performing some meritorious acts whenever you get the chance. Good luck and best wishes. Shaun.
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