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02-12-2019, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
You don't need them but you enjoy looking at them as you look at Photos of loved one's who are not with you....
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What I used to find funny was in the catechist there would be a picture of God depicted as an old man and on another page was a picture of Jesus. Oh I almost forgot, and a picture of baby Jesus.
But then when you look at Christianity today, for the most part, she appears to be a religion not just divorced from the Way but in many aspects is almost the opposite in belief and teachings.
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02-12-2019, 08:12 PM
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You don't need them but you enjoy looking at them as you look at Photos of loved one's who are not with you....
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Yes, I can understand this but some people give them too much power, to me they are just man made objects. My country has a long history with christian paintings performing miracles or even shedding tears.
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02-12-2019, 08:15 PM
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I know, yet even the early christians used symbols like the cross, and this symbol pre-existed before Christ.
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Early Christians definitely used icons, Luke the Evangelist is said to be the first Icon Painter. |
02-12-2019, 08:17 PM
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Early Christians definitely used icons, Luke the Evangelist is said to be the first Icon Painter.
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I heard about this.
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02-12-2019, 08:22 PM
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Yes, I can understand this but some people give them too much power, to me they are just man made objects. My country has a long history with christian paintings performing miracles or even shedding tears.
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Some people give a piece of wood power  If it gives someone comfort and hurts nobody leave well alone...
Miracles can obviously happen through the Icon but it's not the icons power it's your own mind that does the work...
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02-12-2019, 08:24 PM
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I heard about this.
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Yes icons/sculptures etc: are part of early Christianity. |
02-12-2019, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Some people give a piece of wood power If it gives someone comfort and hurts nobody leave well alone...
Miracles can obviously happen through the Icon but it's not the icons power it's your own mind that does the work...
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This is the way I used to think when I was a child while I was hearing stories about icons performing miracles, I used to say that it was the faith of people who actually made those miracles real. Of course, I kept this for myself, why would anyone listen to a child, yes they are just a man made objects.
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02-12-2019, 08:40 PM
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This is the way I used to think when I was a child while I was hearing stories about icons performing miracles, I used to say that it was the faith of people who actually made those miracles real. Of course, I kept this for myself, why would anyone listen to a child, yes they are just a man made objects.
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Man made from Divine Intervention maybe.... |
02-12-2019, 08:42 PM
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Yes icons/sculptures etc: are part of early Christianity.
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Where did you get this idea?
Not one is mentioned in the New Testament.
Not true. This came about later.
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02-12-2019, 08:44 PM
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Early Christians definitely used icons, Luke the Evangelist is said to be the first Icon Painter.
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Where in the Bible does it claim Luke was an icon painter?
He was a doctor.
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