How can you drain an entity attachments energy?

[lanm1192]

Is there any way to weaken them drastically so that they can be forced out?

I'm talking about to the level where they have some control over your body. I need some method that will zap their energy so they can't fight back effectively when I am trying to move them out.

Thank you.

[paints]

I would appreciate some help and advice about this also. Thanks!

(and if you message me, I can let you know what I've been trying and working with. Some big progress lately :)

[Crystal Ambassador]

It'll depend on what type of spirit you're working with, and what they're taking. Is it a living human spirit, a deceased human spirit, or something else? What is it causing; aggression, depression, etc?

[lanm1192]

Originally Posted by Crystal Ambassador

It'll depend on what type of spirit you're working with, and what they're taking. Is it a living human spirit, a deceased human spirit, or something else? What is it causing; aggression, depression, etc?

I have no idea what they are. They came in when I was abusing drugs as a teenager. They've slowly been gaining more control over my physical body. And their primary purpose seems to be making me angry, depressed, fearful, anxious, and paranoid. They want me to lose my self esteem and feel victimized to the point I don't want to fight anymore. They sue sex a lot, but I've found that they have no true interest in sex unless it grants them control and makes me feel less like a person with control or rights over their body.

They mostly seem to be driving me into agitated states because it gets harder to fight them off. But they act cute and cuddly sometimes also to appear I assume less threatening. Or just to annoy me. I'm sure awhile back they were more livable, I can't remember exactly, but I think there was a period of time I had no issue entertaining them, or at least came to accept it.

But it all seems to fall back into this dynamic of trickery and control. I wouldn't be surprised if they were going for a full possession somewhere down the line. I'm not sure if that helps describe what they may be.

[John32241]

Hello,

My understanding about entity attachments is different than the conventional views. We have all had many life times with both good and less than good emotional experiences. All those personalities from millions of life expressions are still within the self.

Consider the possability that those entities are the ones you are involved with. Now if that is true, how best can you deal with them?

John

[lanm1192]

Originally Posted by John32241

Hello,

My understanding about entity attachments is different than the conventional views. We have all had many life times with both good and less than good emotional experiences. All those personalities from millions of life expressions are still within the self.

Consider the possability that those entities are the ones you are involved with. Now if that is true, how best can you deal with them?

John

Well they seem hellbent on making this life miserable and possibly taking it over. I can't meditate or do any inner or journey work with their partial control over my physical body so my only answer would be to clear past life influences, but I've tried that and it hasn't worked.

I mean how am I supposed to deal with a past life possessing me? The only thing that seems logical given our interactions and this particular veiwpoint is that someone was very upset to die and wants another chance.

If counseling the soul part is what is needed, that is hopeless because they are very resistant to counseling. They make a joke out of it and refuse to answer honestly, straightforwardly, or take anything seriously. Whatever it is, it is damn content to stay in its place.

[John32241]

Originally Posted by lanm1192

If counseling the soul part is what is needed, that is hopeless because they are very resistant to counseling. They make a joke out of it and refuse to answer honestly, straightforwardly, or take anything seriously. Whatever it is, it is damn content to stay in its place.

Hi,

That is quite correct. You will not get a serious interest in any thing you have to say. May I suggest another kind of approach.

The issue here is that concept of oneness. What does it truly mean to you? What if there was an aspect of self which resented how you are treating them. Would you be willing to consider such a thing, and want to be more accomidating?

John

[lanm1192]

Originally Posted by John32241

Hi,

That is quite correct. You will not get a serious interest in any thing you have to say. May I suggest another kind of approach.

The issue here is that concept of oneness. What does it truly mean to you? What if there was an aspect of self which resented how you are treating them. Would you be willing to consider such a thing, and want to be more accomidating?

John

It's hard to be accomodating with something raping you. The thing is, I can't meditate or find space to even truly muse over what might be wrong because if I try to I get harassed. I can't meditate for answers because my body forcefully moves when I try to sit still. I can't very well accomodate something when I can't even figure out what to accomodate.

It keeps saying it wants sex. But I know it doesn't want sex, because there are times I try to just give into it. Then it becomes a game of trying to upset me or push me to a place where I lose all self respect entirely and lose myself or self esteem.

Oneness to me can mean different things. It can be a spiritual state that recognizes the source in all things, though that's not necessarily a state I idolize to return to, being literally one with everything.

Or in my mind, it means being back in full control of my body and being whole and separate in myself.

In any case, it's not like I haven't tried to make deals or be respectful. But it is damn hard in an abusive situation to hold on to yourself and at the same time give two ****s what the thing wants.

[John32241]

Originally Posted by lanm1192

Oneness to me can mean different things. It can be a spiritual state that recognizes the source in all things, though that's not necessarily a state I idolize to return to, being literally one with everything.

Or in my mind, it means being back in full control of my body and being whole and separate in myself.

Hi,

Yes self love for all that you are is some thing which is very hard to accomplish. I recall a time in 1997 where I was told that I was more out of balance then than I had ever been in my life. There were times when my primary guide, and even my higher self would not converse with me. That was because the subject I wanted to discuss was not discussable. I did manage to trick each to respond to a subject I was not upset about.

The really hard concept to accept is that you are an eternal divine spirit connected to everything. That you do have dark aspects of self, dark as ignorance and disenfrangsized aspects of self, which only you can integrate.

My experience has beeen that these aspects of self are like frightened and angry children. If you have ever had the opportunity to deal with an angry teen, then that is what you are up against, as I see these things.

Any way I do wish you the best as you do you deal with this conflict.

John

[Snow Goose]

Here's a link to a book that might interest you https://books.google.co.uk/books/abo... _esc=y&hl=en

Also a link to one of Josephine 's blog posts discussing the subject https://josephinemccarthy.com/2014/0...for-beginners/