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Old 22-02-2019, 09:17 AM
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WHERE is HEAVEN ? WHERE IS HELL?

THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION on this topic. Heaven and Hell exist in different pockets in the Universe all where. Their perceptibility depends upon the density of the experiencer's physical existence.

We live on earth and our body density is about 1. We can see and feel ice and water but when it is boiled we cannot see its conversion into steam because of its low density, though it exist around us. On earth, Five star hotels that are the places of luxury and enjoyment, could be considered as Heaven on earth for us. Similarly the slums and underground places of evil and crime could be considered as semi hell on the earth. Jails that are places of confinement, pain, suffering and torture that could be considered as real Hell on earth . This is the hell for human beings. However the heaven and Hell, for the Ghostly beings are different.

When we die, our body density becomes very thin almost like super heated steam that remains invisible to our eyes. There we live in a world where everything is made of the essence of elements existing in their a molecular state ( say like vaporized iron). Indian Scriptures describe the space between earth and moon as Antariksh and Pritra Lokas harboring localities of Hell ( closer to the earth ) and Semi Heaven ( Closer to Moon ) respectively. Many Christians with ND experience report to have met with Christ who showed them this kind of hell of dead permeating earth. All those who are not evil minded and had lived as normal householder lives, live in Pitraloka.

The space between moon to Pole Star is the real heaven described in scriptures of all religions that are places of beauty and sense pleasure. These are all real though not visible by naked eyes.Dead Philanthropists, pious kings, persons with virtuous deeds, good film stars, sages and seers, live there. Like in hotels, one can live as long as he can pay bills, similarly In these Heavenly Hotels too one can live as long as his merits of good karma permit them to do so. When the wealth of good Karma gets exhausted one has to return and take birth on earth again.
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Old 22-02-2019, 09:39 AM
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Interesting ideas. As far as I'm concerned, heaven and hell are largely allegorical, they are more to do with vibrational levels than anything else. The Muladhara can be thought of as hell, because it is hot and fiery. We have the popular image of the Devil (red hot and horned), poking people in the bottom with a trident. That does seem like an image of awakening Kundalini to me. The top Chakra, the Thousand-petalled lotus is the seventh. Don't we talk about seventh heaven all the time? To me that Chakra is heaven, or at least a conduit to it. Those that live in the Muladhara, stuck in the material world, are already in Hell, they just don't know it. Those that have transmuted their earthly energies and have pierced the Sahasrara are already in Heaven and they know it. They walk with the Gods and have constant access to higher realms and higher beings. That is basically the gist of all mystery traditions. It really is that simple, in my view.
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Old 22-02-2019, 05:13 PM
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Interesting ideas. As far as I'm concerned, heaven and hell are largely allegorical, they are more to do with vibrational levels than anything else. The Muladhara can be thought of as hell, because it is hot and fiery. We have the popular image of the Devil (red hot and horned), poking people in the bottom with a trident. That does seem like an image of awakening Kundalini to me. The top Chakra, the Thousand-petalled lotus is the seventh. Don't we talk about seventh heaven all the time? To me that Chakra is heaven, or at least a conduit to it. Those that live in the Muladhara, stuck in the material world, are already in Hell, they just don't know it. Those that have transmuted their earthly energies and have pierced the Sahasrara are already in Heaven and they know it. They walk with the Gods and have constant access to higher realms and higher beings. That is basically the gist of all mystery traditions. It really is that simple, in my view.

This explanation incidentally fits with the heavens of different levels. However it could be CALLED AS HEAVENS WITHIN, quite distinct with the External Earthly and Ghostly Heavens in Space.
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Old 28-02-2019, 07:27 PM
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This is my current opinion:

For such heavenly beings, which God created with Love:

Heaven is being Happy (counting all emotions with promote Happiness/Joy).
Hell is being Angry (counting all emotions and thoughts which support Hate/Fear).

With Joy they communicate with their Source, with hate they communicate with nothing but themselves.
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Old 23-03-2019, 01:49 AM
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In my view, they is no afterlife with a heaven or hell - only life as we know it, in each and every moment. To some this will be heaven, to others this will be hell...
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Old 23-03-2019, 03:03 AM
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Heaven? Papeete, French Polynesia

Hell? Port au Prince, Haiti
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Old 23-03-2019, 03:54 AM
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Lol.

There is a town called Hell a few thousand kilometres from me

I don't know where heaven is geographically.
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Old 24-03-2019, 10:25 AM
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Pamir Valley was a picturesque place- full of waterfalls, fruits and edibles, was co

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Lol.

There is a town called Hell a few thousand kilometres from me

I don't know where heaven is geographically.

In ancient times, Pamir Valley was a picturesque place- full of waterfalls, fruits and edibles, was considered to be Heaven. Here Indra the ruler of the world lived. The Biblical Eden Garden on the foothills of Ural is also considered as Heaven on earth.

Somewhere beneath the present South Africa- Hell is supposed to be located.
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Old 21-04-2019, 06:21 AM
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Heaven high, Hell low. Heaven peace, Hell violence. Heaven light (well-being), Hell dark (all terribleness).

Both are an inner state. Both are an outer state.

One's mind can be their Heaven. One's mind can be their Hell.

The universe is a dark place but there is an instance when the universe is all light and there is no darkness.
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