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Old 23-01-2018, 05:13 AM
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That's a tough one to describe. Will leave you with a flower though.

I follow flowers.

I get flowers and give flowers leaving a touch of myself on each one.

Very nice
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Old 23-01-2018, 05:14 AM
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I once sang the gayatri mantra for an hour to a tiny pink flower bursting through between two tiles in the pavement..

Flowers are wonderful aren't they?

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*applause, rapturous applause*
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Old 23-01-2018, 05:14 AM
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A field without flowers is unadorned (nonduality).

Color please?

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Old 23-01-2018, 07:04 AM
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Color please?

BT

After looking at your question and reviewing the post that precipitated it, I propose an addendum:

I see the error of calling non-duality anything at all including a field or a general term for that matter. They are all but placeholders at best.

On a semi-related note, two items....

1) a perspective,

Neti, neti as a practical vehicle for travel. It still seems limiting as its sole mission is to negate everything but what negates negation? It's mission incomplete and so it will travel forever on that mission.

Then this flashed in my thought at the same time as I was composing the above,

Neti neti does not actually exist just as time does not exist. There is nothing to do and nothing to be done or ever was or will.

What is done in manifest is done for the sake of itself or restated, I does for I. It may look at times like I does for beyond itself but that's another I or more succinctly..... I.

2) A proposition:

Nonduality, a more refined state of duality.
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Old 23-01-2018, 06:13 PM
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Well, strictly speaking, a 'duality', in entailing but a singular relationship, is one dimensional (though that is only one of the possibilities, and we can't actually have a duality in isolation)
I noticed that not long after posting actually haha. That's true.

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Nonduality, a more refined state of duality.
Brilliant statement. For a person, that can only be true. Nonduality itself is quite happily nondual though
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Old 24-01-2018, 02:11 AM
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“What does an escape from duality look like?” asked itself.

You are of no help came the reply.
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Old 24-01-2018, 02:17 AM
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That which is perceived perceives itself right where it is.
There is no escape from duality, because there never was one.

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Old 24-01-2018, 02:59 AM
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That which is perceived perceives itself right where it is.
There is no escape from duality, because there never was one.

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Agreed. However in the structure of language, the one that never was is one of never thus maintaining the binary.

A synthesis of posts while substituting 'duality' with 'language':

It can be said the language cannot escape itself..... because there never was language (to escape).

And yet here we are.
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Old 24-01-2018, 03:26 AM
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Agreed. However in the structure of language, the one that never was is one of never thus maintaining the binary.

A synthesis of posts while substituting 'duality' with 'language':


The structure of language experienced.
A sound or thought symbolizing a concept to point to the thing that experiences itself in itself through the filters of the senses..

Consciousness arises as the thing experiences. And seizes as the thing seizes as experience.
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Old 24-01-2018, 04:46 AM
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Consciousness arises as the thing experiences. And seizes as the thing seizes as experience.

Very nice!


Duality, the wheel and path are one.

No Wheel : No Duality

No Path : No Duality


There is no path only destination undefined.

Now is so illusive. Is now the moment of conscious thought or before?
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