Jesus had a father?

[Guard]

AngelBreeze:

I have one question for you? Prayer For Salvation (by mouth)?

Does that mean you are damned if you have the inability to speak or say someone cuts your tongue out prior to seeking salvation? Or does God make acceptions to this rule? Because if so, I feel really bad for those that can't talk or got their tongue cut out. Sorta sucks you know. And I am asking you a serious question.

[002 Cents]

When it comes to faith in Jesus, disputing the claims in the Bible of his "Immaculate Conception" seem a futile investment of your time. I can only say I was not there to speak either way on the matter.

I believe if Christ could choose what were willing to take a stand on, on his behalf, it would be keeping what he stood for, what he lived and died for, alive in the world today. Ideals of Brotherhood, Equality, Goodness, Compassion and Love.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by 002 Cents

When it comes to faith in Jesus, disputing the claims in the Bible of his "Immaculate Conception" seem a futile investment of your time. I can only say I was not there to speak either way on the matter.

I believe if Christ could choose what were willing to take a stand on, on his behalf, it would be keeping what he stood for, what he lived and died for, alive in the world today. Ideals of Brotherhood, Equality, Goodness, Compassion and Love.

I like the way you phrased that : seems a futile investment of your time.

My thought world or thought time is carefully monitored by "me" - I agree
with your post.

I like the idea that Jesus, a highly advanced soul, was able to create the circumstances of his own birth, as we all can. Though without physical conception as a counterpart.

But I love the idea even more that Jesus was conceptualised by an alien race. This is probably what I believe more than anything about his birth.

As for the saying, "I and the Father are One"; this was simply implying that he and his higher self were one, he had melded with his higher self. And to go even further, the 12 apostles were physical incarnations of each one of his chakras. Pretty bizarre, but I like it, it's kind of sci-fi ;) and resonates deeply strangely enough.

Just a note on all the bickering, what is anyone trying to prove? That they are correct, why not let beliefs be beliefs; simple construct of the mind. In favour of most here, I too cannot stand a christian who is righteously prophecying about the afterlife and life on earth, and it makes me cringe in the stomach when one does. And I must say that this one is quite a brainwashed cookie.

But still, what one believes is of their own making, and will make their experience, so judge not another, for you know not their path.

Tis better not to judge and be who you are, than to judge and become what you are judging.

;)

Blessings to you

El