A mobile phone in 1928...

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by celery

First off, I apologize if you felt address or even worse, offended by what I said earlier.

Again, I don't know what's possible in AP or time traveling (Einstein and his twin theory should know more about this than anyone else), but if you could stop thinking with your mind stuck in 2010, knowing you need poles, and emmiters, receptors, an operator and a space satellite in order for a cellphone to work, and just think from a timeless objective point of view, for instance, like some AP stories I have read here, like traveling to other planes for just a few minutes, and that it doesn't matter if in other planes there is no bread or clean water to drink if you get hungry, then it's clear where your mind is stuck.

I replied here and won't reply in Youtube because I know it's going to be worthless there.

I wasn't offended by what you were saying, but just giving another pov. Now I'm not referring to other dimensions. As what happens in there may not completely coincide with what is happening here. However, the original post was a video of something that is happening in our dimension. In our universe. So what is relevant to have happened then is still happening then. That has not changed. For if the slightest change happened in 1928 it would reverberate to 2010. If you've ever seen the movie the butterfly effect they talk about such a concept.

Now we could argue that it's possible that they projected a shadow of themselves into the past, but were not actually in the past. It just appeared that way. Looking like they were having a conversation in the past, but were actually having a conversation in the present.

Originally Posted by innerlight

However, the original post was a video of something that is happening in our dimension. In our universe. So what is relevant to have happened then is still happening then. That has not changed. For if the slightest change happened in 1928 it would reverberate to 2010. If you've ever seen the movie the butterfly effect they talk about such a concept.

Hmmm I remember watching the butterfly effect, but I already forgot the theory behind it (probably should watch it again this weekend). But again, trying to get rid of biases such as movies and AP (probably I gave a not-so-good example), the possibilities are endless. Trying to use another example, probably what happened there was a new phenomenon, I remember those stories about people watching ghosts jumping off into train rail, poor souls trapped into the moment of their suicide. Again, this might be another bad example, but from the beginning of this discussion, I was just trying to say that trying to explain something by only the things we already know (no matter how much or little you know about anything, whether it be AP, movies, physical theories, etc.) has a name, and IMHO the name is closed-mindedness.
Again, maybe what happened in that movie can be fake, maybe not, maybe it's a prank, maybe it's a phenomenon people call NOW time traveling, but in the future it will have another name because open-minded people will be able to tell the difference. Or you can continue trying to explain it by only the thing you already know.

This is off-topic, but I just realized that knowledge has its drawbacks, too. It can make you try to explain everything by what you know, and don't give room to the possibilities you don't. So thank you for that one. =)

Now we could argue that it's possible that they projected a shadow of themselves into the past, but were not actually in the past. It just appeared that way. Looking like they were having a conversation in the past, but were actually having a conversation in the present.

I think it's going to take me a while to compute this one, LOLOL hold on.... LOL

[Spiritlite]

Okay I've watched this over and over and to me it looks like someone on a cell phone, I can see an antenae. Then it appears the person dissapears. Looks like a time traveler to me.
Spiritlite.

[Spiritlite]

I'm also going to have a good friend of mine look at this who will be able to figure out if this is a prank I'll let you know.
Spiritlite.

[Squatchit]

Originally Posted by Spiritlite

I'm also going to have a good friend of mine look at this who will be able to figure out if this is a prank I'll let you know.
Spiritlite.

Thank Spiritlite.

I find it really fascinating...and I'm normally skeptical of these things.

Squatch

[Orbie]

I reckon its a prank. The fact the speaker stops and turns slightly to face the camera. Also, isnt there another camera conveniently placed to get a close up later on... gosh wouldnt it be something though if it wasnt eh!

Originally Posted by Spiritlite

I'm also going to have a good friend of mine look at this who will be able to figure out if this is a prank I'll let you know.
Spiritlite.

I'm looking forward to hearing what he/she will say. Thank you! Is s/he like a professional time traveler or something? lol

Even if this is true, it'll be made out as a prank... all the wonderful and unexplainable things get covered up.

Thank you for sharing!

Blessings
Abikisses

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by celery

Hmmm I remember watching the butterfly effect, but I already forgot the theory behind it (probably should watch it again this weekend). But again, trying to get rid of biases such as movies and AP (probably I gave a not-so-good example), the possibilities are endless. Trying to use another example, probably what happened there was a new phenomenon, I remember those stories about people watching ghosts jumping off into train rail, poor souls trapped into the moment of their suicide. Again, this might be another bad example, but from the beginning of this discussion, I was just trying to say that trying to explain something by only the things we already know (no matter how much or little you know about anything, whether it be AP, movies, physical theories, etc.) has a name, and IMHO the name is closed-mindedness.
Again, maybe what happened in that movie can be fake, maybe not, maybe it's a prank, maybe it's a phenomenon people call NOW time traveling, but in the future it will have another name because open-minded people will be able to tell the difference. Or you can continue trying to explain it by only the thing you already know.

This is off-topic, but I just realized that knowledge has its drawbacks, too. It can make you try to explain everything by what you know, and don't give room to the possibilities you don't. So thank you for that one. =)



I think it's going to take me a while to compute this one, LOLOL hold on.... LOL

I'm not referring to movies, or say it's not possible to time travel. That may very well be true.. However time traveling will not change the way things actually are right now. If it did, we would already know of the change. for it would of reverberated throughout time and only the person that changed it would of known about the change.

I am saying visiting a different time period no matter how you did it would not make the time period different.

Now we could say that in the future they've managed to create a phone that does not work off of antenna's and a phone that would be able to go back and forth in time.

[Spiritlite]

No my friend just knows a lot about physics and such and is very good at watching movies to see if they are real or pranks. He's basically a genius I'll let you know what he says.
Spiritlite.