Home
Donate!
Articles
CHAT!
Shop
|
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.
We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.
|
21-04-2019, 05:07 AM
|
Suspended
Experiencer
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 289
|
|
|
|
Read Isaiah 45:7
|
21-04-2019, 10:15 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Matrix
Posts: 6,575
|
|
|
|
|
D.M..?
"It is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God."
Jesus
Mathew 4:4-6
__________________
"I believe there are two sides to the phenomena known as death. This side where we live, and the other side, where we shall continue to live.
Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
|
23-04-2019, 02:50 PM
|
Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,082
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpheus
D.M..?
"It is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God."
Jesus
Mathew 4:4-6
|
the mouth of God does that mean scripture or God speaking to us as individuals?
|
02-05-2019, 07:16 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Matrix
Posts: 6,575
|
|
|
|
|
Well, we are to understand that Jesus is the Word made flesh.
Also, it is written that He is the Light of every man, (person).
__________________
"I believe there are two sides to the phenomena known as death. This side where we live, and the other side, where we shall continue to live.
Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now." - Norman Vincent Peale
"There is no place in this new kind of physics for both the field and matter, for the field is the only reality." - A. Einstein
|
02-05-2019, 08:30 AM
|
Master
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 15,627
|
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morpheus
Well, we are to understand that Jesus is the Word made flesh.
Also, it is written that He is the Light of every man, (person).
|
And if it's not written but self realization what then?
|
02-05-2019, 09:20 PM
|
Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,082
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sky123
And if it's not written but self realization what then?
|
you can view 'self realisation' (aka life) as a gift received from God even though God isn't separate from us. This top level view is identical to standard Christian ideas where life is received. One way or another it comes from the source. The difference is about beliefs and perceptions, not the substance of divine experience, that can be shared.
|
03-05-2019, 11:28 AM
|
Deactivated Account
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,546
|
|
|
|
|
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
This, I agree 100% with.
__________________
Shall I give you dis pear?
|
03-05-2019, 12:33 PM
|
Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: ♡AUSTRALIA♡
Posts: 1,466
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
This, I agree 100% with.
|
God will not intervene to stop evil, BECAUSE God set laws into play, & one of those laws is FREE WILL...& we are allowed to express our free will in any way we choose...good or evil. BUT, there is Another law, & that law is, "do not impede anyones free will...no matter if the will is for good or evil.
God sees the impedance of any persons free will as an unloving act, & unloving acts are awarded a penalty to the unloving Soul'self via the self correcting & self serving universal laws of love.
& God will not stop/impede anyone's free will because God is a loving God & respects his own laws & the free will of any person.
If anyone or everyone, were to be christed beings, by having sufficient quantities of Gods very Christ transforming very essence within them, then those people would fall under the full self abundant Christ protection, known as the full "ARMOUR OF CHRIST" & those persons displaying the full armour are self abundantly impervious to the onslaught of evil minded beings.
God has set his universe up to be self sufficient & self regulating. His universe itself, rewards the loving person with exponential love & abundance, & awards the unloving persons with a penalty to the Soul'self which exponentially depletes the quality of life & abundance of the unloving person & of which becomes very abundantly obvious in the life of a person without the earthly flesh form.
THE GOD ENTITY IS NOT MALEVOLENT...THE GOD ENTITY IS VERY INTELEGENT...ALL HOLY, ALL LOVING & ALL MERCIFUL...& NEVER INTERFERES WITH OUR LIVES.
Regards & SMILES from me once again.
|
03-05-2019, 12:43 PM
|
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 25,117
|
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by neil
God will not intervene to stop evil, BECAUSE God set laws into play, & one of those
laws is FREE WILL...& we are allowed to express our free will in any way we choose...good or evil.
THE GOD ENTITY IS NOT MALEVOLENT...THE GOD ENTITY IS VERY INTELLIGENT...
ALL HOLY, ALL LOVING & ALL MERCIFUL...& NEVER INTERFERES WITH OUR LIVES.
|
What don't people get about this? I'm wondering if it is just easier or perhaps
the Nature of the Ego people fall for to always blame another....Eve supposedly did first thing!!
God is like a Landlord you lease from....it is His house, He can't just come in, tho..(and interfere), unless invited.
So whine and moan and point fingers and blame and be all mad and indignant...not the way I want to spend my time here!!~!
Most of us have been there..."Oh the Universe is so terrible; why is this happening to me?"
And then ya grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your life....figuring out how things work here.
__________________
.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
|
03-05-2019, 01:38 PM
|
Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 6,087
|
|
|
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by janielee
I think that what is problematic is that Christianity, in its current form in an orthodox sense, is quite belief driven.
So something is written and people are expected, demanded, and in some cases as seen here, relegated outwards, if they say they don't believe the letter of the law.
But my sense would be, if Jesus is who he is, that he would be most interested in the spirit of the letter.
And that is in a sense, love and humanity and love for all of life...
There has been some control with Churches and utilizing religion to brainwash people. I am not saying all of what is written is false, but perhaps it might be better to live the Law.
And that Law as I understand it is to love others as yourself, to live in harmony, to help others as Jesus did with the poor folk and enslaved.
I don't see that much in modern day Christianity. The Pope seems to be more of a figure who is trying to implement more of the spirit, but he has so much opposition from theologists and people who use the word against the spirit of the word.
I think it's also nice to remember that there are many Christian mystics who have spoken of God and God's teachings and I have often found their teachings and guidance much more truer than people who are still paddling at the surface, or perhaps more worryingly, using the letter to form fear based beliefs or divisions amongst humankind.
|
Hello Janielee...I am reading your post after reading Kundalinikid's quote, which spot on quotes the primary commandments out of Jesus's mouth.
Quote:
Mathew 22: 35-40 KJV
Quote:
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
|
This is it...what would Jesus do? Well...what did Jesus say?
He said...be and do these two commandments, which are interconnected.
You cannot love God and hate (truly hate) your neighbour OR the stranger OR the vulnerable and outcast amongst you.
And you cannot love all these and hate (truly hate) God...as loving the one(s) equates to loving One. Likewise, loving One implies loving all these ones.
That is our direct commandment, clearly laid out. And the two aspects of this one great commandment have also clearly been laid out.
BTW...I actually had another conversation with Jesus recently. Very recently.
And on asking on the state of affairs in the world today and what to do, he said you must be more (genuinely, authentically) loving to one another.
With an illuminated emphasis on being genuine, authentic, loving and moral first and foremost in our own lives, centred on honouring our mutual divinity and our relationship (interbeing) with What Is, in order to then engage this way with one another and in community. And with a gentle, almost humourous look that said, in essence, you already know the answer to this question.
For that reason, I came to this subforum and found just the thread I needed to read...because the conversation is already in progress.
Peace & blessings
7L
__________________
Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 02:44 PM.
|