HOW to REACH to the SPIRITUAL WORLD

[OPVerma]

WE ON SF DISCUSS VARIOUS SUBJECT and hope to reach to the spiritual world by doing so automatically. It is like hoping to become a Harvard professor just by discussion and without any degree and knowledge. For going to the spiritual world we need preparation and fulfill the following requirements.

1. QUALIFICATION ; Besides practicing some standard form of yoga to burn negative karma, one must be a noble and virtuous person like RAMA. Spiritual World is a classy place and village bums are not admitted there.

2. KNOWLEDGE OF THE ROUTE ; Bhagavad Gita describes 8;23-27 Archi route to the spiritual world that requires the knowledge of sun moon and earth's movements and their alignment for reaching to the center of Galaxy and from there to the spiritual world. A diagram and road map is given in the '21st CENTURY BHAGAVAD GITA.

3. ACQUIRING VISA One must regularly pray to the 4Great gods for taking them to the spiritual world and tell family members to utter in ears the mantra given in BG ;7.30 in your ears on the death bed.

This is what one should to for reaching to the spiritual world.














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[OPVerma]

Originally Posted by OPVerma

WE ON SF DISCUSS VARIOUS SUBJECT and hope to reach to the spiritual world by doing so automatically. It is like hoping to become a Harvard professor just by discussion and without any degree and knowledge. For going to the spiritual world we need preparation and fulfill the following requirements.

1. QUALIFICATION ; Besides practicing some standard form of yoga to burn negative karma, one must be a noble and virtuous person like RAMA. Spiritual World is a classy place and village bums are not admitted there.

2. KNOWLEDGE OF THE ROUTE ; Bhagavad Gita describes 8;23-27 Archi route to the spiritual world that requires the knowledge of sun moon and earth's movements and their alignment for reaching to the center of Galaxy and from there to the spiritual world. A diagram and road map is given in the '21st CENTURY BHAGAVAD GITA.

3. ACQUIRING VISA One must regularly pray to the 4Great gods for taking them to the spiritual world and tell family members to utter in ears the mantra given in BG ;7.30 in your ears on the death bed.

This is what one should do for reaching to the spiritual world.

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This is what one should do for reaching to the spiritual world.

[sky]

Originally Posted by OPVerma

This is what one should do for reaching to the spiritual world.

Thank you for the advice, very informative, I had a feeling I was doing something wrong

[wstein]

There is no 'should' to this adventure.

This *might* be one way to reach the 'Spiritual World' but certainly not the only nor the best way.

To use your analogy about the Harvard professor, how did the first Harvard professors get to be professors if there were no previous Harvard professors?? Who acted as the VISA issuing authority before anyone was already vetted to do so? Clearly they had to do it without prior help.

How many of the great spiritual people had QUALIFICATIONs and VISAs? Seems to me that Buddha for instance spent many years wandering around to various traditions trying to gain entrance until he finally gave up, sat down, and figured it out by himself.

Looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the 'Spiritual World' is internal (to yourself).

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by wstein

There is no 'should' to this adventure.

This *might* be one way to reach the 'Spiritual World' but certainly not the only nor the best way.

To use your analogy about the Harvard professor, how did the first Harvard professors get to be professors if there were no previous Harvard professors?? Who acted as the VISA issuing authority before anyone was already vetted to do so? Clearly they had to do it without prior help.

How many of the great spiritual people had QUALIFICATIONs and VISAs? Seems to me that Buddha for instance spent many years wandering around to various traditions trying to gain entrance until he finally gave up, sat down, and figured it out by himself.

Looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the 'Spiritual World' is internal (to yourself).

Looking outside can, however, be useful for getting pointers along the way as there is no point in "re-inventing the wheel" (as the expression goes) but, ultimately, I agree with you completely that "looking outside is totally counter to spiritual pursuit. The door to the Spiritual World is internal (to one's Self)."

Your example with the Buddha is very relevant and insightful for getting this point across.

[Shivani Devi]

What should we do to reach the spiritual world?

Sit down quietly, focus on the breath and slow down our thoughts. If anything arises within, let it all go with peace and love.

If certain mystical visions, lights and 'spiritual experiences' are to be had, let them all go with peace and love too, saying "Neti Neti" (this isn't significant).

*and I would much prefer the shruti texts over the smriti texts any day of the week, Pundit Verma*

Knowledge can only take us so far though, because Brahman is unknowable and that is the true Jnana or Gnosis of the Vedas.

The spiritual world is reached through the heart and through love, devotion, surrender and compassion and no matter what faith or creed is involved, that applies.

As for the Spiritual World itself...there are many 'Spiritual Worlds'...'Bhur'...'Bhuvah'...'Swah'...'Jana'...'T apa'...'Kailash'...'Vaikunth'...

I like to associate all those with the etheric astral planes in the Pranamaya Kosha (Astral Body)...a.k.a The Chakras and not with any 'place out there' in our 3D physicality whatsoever.

This is basically what the Gayatri Mantra means.

Maybe the Gods still live among the stars, who knows? (I have read parts of the 21st Century Bhagavad Gita)...but I pretty much stick to my Shaivite roots out of habit now.

[OPVerma]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

What should we do to reach the spiritual world?

Sit down quietly, focus on the breath and slow down our thoughts. If anything arises within, let it all go with peace and love.

If certain mystical visions, lights and 'spiritual experiences' are to be had, let them all go with peace and love too, saying "Neti Neti" (this isn't significant).

*and I would much prefer the shruti texts over the smriti texts any day of the week, Pundit Verma*

Knowledge can only take us so far though, because Brahman is unknowable and that is the true Jnana or Gnosis of the Vedas.

The spiritual world is reached through the heart and through love, devotion, surrender and compassion and no matter what faith or creed is involved, that applies.

As for the Spiritual World itself...there are many 'Spiritual Worlds'...'Bhur'...'Bhuvah'...'Swah'...'Jana'...'T apa'...'Kailash'...'Vaikunth'...

I like to associate all those with the etheric astral planes in the Pranamaya Kosha (Astral Body)...a.k.a The Chakras and not with any 'place out there' in our 3D physicality whatsoever.

This is basically what the Gayatri Mantra means.

Maybe the Gods still live among the stars, who knows? (I have read parts of the 21st Century Bhagavad Gita)...but I pretty much stick to my Shaivite roots out of habit now.

Bhagavad Gita rates meditation process of attaining liberation very high. With this process one can reach up to jana tapa and satya or Brahmn loka that are within the material world or this universe. For reaching there you have to leave your breath in a particular auspicious time and call some of your precede-rs to lead you there. one has to wait there Till the end of the Universe (Great god no,1) , when gg1 merges into great god no2 and so on till you reach to the intermediate spiritual world vaikuntha or shivaloka. this gradual process called as krama mukti is also given in bhagavad gita.

however when one prays to gg 1-4, he is allowed trace-passing, and provided with escort to reach to the spiritual world directly.







































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[Gem]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

What should we do to reach the spiritual world?

Sit down quietly, focus on the breath and slow down our thoughts. If anything arises within, let it all go with peace and love.

That's the ticket

[Rah nam]

I am flabbergasted, what kind of spiritual world (existence) does one reach with this practice?

[Unseeking Seeker]

In my view, to ascend, evolve, any path is fine as long as we endeavour to get to the roots. Choose Bhakti/prayer, meditation or selfless service, as of inclination, it does not matter.

Our choice, zeal, fervour is the key, the Universe does the rest. Automatically.

Peace