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Old 14-06-2011, 07:35 PM
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The Illusion of Need

Coming directly from God Channeled through Neale Donald Walsch. Book, *Conversations with God

"This is not only The First Illusion, but the grandest. On this illusion are all other illsuions based. Everything that you currently experience in life, everything you feel moment to moment, is rooted in this idea, and your thought about it. Need does not exist in the Universe. One needs something only if one requires a particular result.; The Universe does not require a particular result. The Universe IS the result. Need is likewise non-existant in the mind of God. God would need something only if God required a particular result. God does not require any particular result. God is that which produces results.
If God needed something to produce a result, where would God get it? There is nothing that exists outside of God. God is All, All That Was, and All That Will Ever Be. There is nothing that is not "God. You may better grasp your idea if you use the word "life" in replace of the word "God. The two are interchangeable, so you will not alter the meaning: you will merely increase your understanding.
Nothing that is, is not Life. If Life needed something to produce a result, where would life get it? There is nothing that exists outside of Life. Life is All That Is, All That Was, and All That Ever Will Be.
God needs nothing to occur except that which is occuring.
Life needs nothing to occur except that which is occuring.
The Universe needs nothing to occur except that which is occuring.
This is the nature of things. THIS is how it is, not the way you have imagined it. In your imagination you created and idea of Need out of your experience that you need things in order to survive..........."
" Happiness is not created as a result of certain conditions. Certain conditions are created as a result of happiness. That statement hold trye for every other state of being as well. Love is not created as a result of a certain condition. Certain conditions are created as a result of Love. Compassion, Abundance. Substitute any state of being you can imagine of devise."....Is it possible for something to occur that God cannot stop? And if GOd is choosing not to stop it, is the occurrence itself something which is choosing?
Of course it is.
Yet why would God chooser things to occur that would make God unhappy? The answer is an answer that you cannbot accept. NOTHING MAKES GOD UNHAPPY. You cannot believe because it would require you to believe in a God without need of need or judgement, and you cannot imagine such a God. The reason you cannot imagine such a God is that you cannot imagine such a human. You do not believe that you can live that way-you cannot imagine a God who is Greater than you. When you gocme to understand that you can live that way, then you will know all there is to knw about God.
You will know that your second accessment was right. God is not greater than you. How can God be? For God is That which You are, and That which is God. Yet you are greater than you think you are. Masters know this. There are "Masters walking your planet right now who know this. These Masters come from many Traditions, religions, and cultures. yet they all have one thing in common. Nothing makes Masters unhappy." In early days your primative culture, most humans were not in this place of master. They only desire was avpoid unhappiness, or pain. Their awareness was too limited for them to understand that pain did not have to produce unhappiness, and so their life strategy was built around what later came to be described as The Pleasure Principle. They moved towars what brought them pleasure and moved away from what deprived them pleasure(or cause of pain).
Thus, The First illusion, the idea that Need Exists, was born. It was what could be called the first mistake.
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